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May 9, 2007 at 5:28 am #620969
acheadKeymasteryou know it’s totally possible to even write a piece of code to do this.. here’s the theoretics behind it:
a. You can generate the phasing frequencies just with a simple direct sound library.
b. There will be a direct need for user interaction in the assignment of non – destructional frequencies. (the vocals that will be saved)
c. The wave form can be processed with a direct sound object and and out put to wav.
simple enough right?
AdSense 336x280May 10, 2007 at 9:13 pm #621107
acheadKeymasterwat software 2 use
AdSense 336x280May 11, 2007 at 9:28 am #621139
cameronc650ParticipantIt’s all a bit too technical for us novices!!!!
AdSense 336x280May 11, 2007 at 9:55 pm #621192
acheadKeymasterthis Kn0ck0ut plugin can work as a pretty cool filter. Especially on guitars! I like it.
AdSense 336x280May 13, 2007 at 8:41 am #621321
TommypeedjParticipantReally nice!!!
thanxAdSense 336x280May 14, 2007 at 8:26 am #621430
acheadKeymasterReally handy topic!! thanx!
AdSense 336x280May 15, 2007 at 12:25 am #621492
acheadKeymasterthanks for the info, very helpful
AdSense 336x280May 15, 2007 at 12:34 am #621493
acheadKeymasterThanx for the tip i never knew that you could create your own acapella’s
thanxAdSense 336x280May 16, 2007 at 2:58 pm #621664
acheadKeymasterwow! thanks for that
AdSense 336x280May 18, 2007 at 1:06 am #621888
DJXL17ParticipantThis thread is the niceness.
AdSense 336x280May 19, 2007 at 8:33 pm #622084
djtrancesponderParticipantThanx for the info.
AdSense 336x280May 20, 2007 at 3:27 pm #622171
acheadKeymasteri’m not getting any good results… I see ots of different program suggestions and methods, but so far, I’ve been turning out some crap… but, I’m also trying to do rock music vocals… i saw a little in this thread… referrences and what not… but does anyone know if it would make much difference… for shits and grins I tried to do fresh prince and jazzy jeff – parents just don’t understand… but I guess I’m not doing something right… i’m new to this, so I’m just i’m just misunderstanding something… any suggestions?
AdSense 336x280May 20, 2007 at 3:48 pm #622173
acheadKeymastergreat info
AdSense 336x280May 21, 2007 at 3:11 pm #622300
Nate DoggParticipantthanks for that information! I will try to do some.
AdSense 336x280May 21, 2007 at 11:54 pm #622360
acheadKeymasterI found that since the beat in a hip hop song is normally looped, if you can find one loop on a track with atleast a minimal amount of vocal (either in the beginning while the artist is cueing up or at the end as the song fades out). Just clip the loop from the song, and invert it (you can do all this in Sound Forge). Then you can place the song and the inverted loop in a loop based program like Acid. Worked well when I couldn’t find the instrumental or acapella version of a song
AdSense 336x280May 22, 2007 at 8:17 pm #622437
acheadKeymastertrying the MDSP… amazing but complex tool…
AdSense 336x280May 24, 2007 at 1:43 am #622591
Kitty’sRansomParticipantwow that’s kewl
AdSense 336x280May 28, 2007 at 7:41 am #623045
rdjbeatsParticipantmarcicano wrote:.. thank u very much noob. then u have to….lol
AdSense 336x280May 28, 2007 at 4:19 pm #623089
acheadKeymasterok it’s cool now
AdSense 336x280May 29, 2007 at 3:31 am #623163
djdj2ParticipantSounds cool, How exactly do you do method 1 in acid?
AdSense 336x280May 29, 2007 at 5:13 pm #623212
acheadKeymastercool
AdSense 336x280May 30, 2007 at 12:55 am #623285
acheadKeymastercool thankz…didn’t work though but okeay
AdSense 336x280May 30, 2007 at 3:28 am #623294
jlab980Participantthat is so helpful
AdSense 336x280May 30, 2007 at 5:05 am #623307
acheadKeymasterThat was very helpful…Ive never tried making acappellas but I think this will work =]
AdSense 336x280May 30, 2007 at 4:32 pm #623376
acheadKeymasterthnks man..very helpful
AdSense 336x280June 1, 2007 at 12:09 am #623556
acheadKeymaster[quote quote="TiMG":376saqk5]heres an overview of the different methods used for extracting vocals…
1. THE PHASE CANCELLATION METHOD
Get an instrumental of a song, invert the phase (sometimes refered to as flipping), and mix it with the original.. If done right everything besides the vocal is cancelled out. You can do this in any sequencer like cubase or acid.. The instrumental must be excatly the same time/pitch however. and mp3s might not work if they are badly encoded. Zoom right in to see the 2 waveforms next to each other (look for kick drum hits) and line them up.2. THE KNOCKOUT METHOD
using ‘knock0ut’ (http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) you can spectrally subtract one piece of audio from another. Start by extracting the centre mono of a track (soundforge or cooledit will do it with the pan/expand feature). then try and make an instrumental out of loops from the track and ‘knock them out’ of the vocal parts. This can work even if the instrumental isn’t excatly the same as the song.3. OTHER METHODS
Besides these methods you can try Cool edits (now audition) noise reduction feature, which is very powerful. Analyse a bit of instrumental and get a profile (6000 or 4096FFT is a good size).. reduce than from the whole song.
You can also try the soundhack spectral plugins and Voxengo’s Transmodder to futher reduce spikey nosies like drums.. (don’t ask me how .. its all trial and error).You will NEVER make a totally perfect acapella with 2 and 3. You can however make something good enough to work in your mix.. USE YOUR EARS! LISTEN and learn and you might get somewhere
TimG[/quote:376saqk5]
its hard to do some of these sometimes
AdSense 336x280June 1, 2007 at 9:26 am #623597
acheadKeymasterthank you very much guys
AdSense 336x280June 1, 2007 at 10:30 pm #623683
acheadKeymasterCool, gonna check it!
AdSense 336x280June 2, 2007 at 8:12 pm #623754
acheadKeymasterthanks
AdSense 336x280June 3, 2007 at 4:26 pm #623834
acheadKeymasterthxs
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