COPYRIGHT ISSUES

[quote quote="unkh":1l2o8pae]Hi,

me I want to know what is a max of timelength for a sample to not get in trouble with copyright stuff when I want to use them commercial?

Greetz[/quote:1l2o8pae]

Read this (posted less than 24 hours ago) from of which you would’ve seen if you searched.

anisina wrote:

It is also a misconception that if anybody samples less than 5 seconds of audio, then it won’t be subject to copyright. If it’s a drum hit, then you would probably get away with it, but I wouldn’t count on it.

all this stuff is so complicated. we should just be able to make music

Sounds easy enough to "just do it,"
but in my situation where my work is
being sponsored by a school district,
I can’t take any chances. Which leads me
to my next question…If I want to make a
remix using an acapella from this site,
am I using a "master?" If these pellas
aren’t considered master recordings, then
I shouldn’t have to obtain master rights
use, right? This is my last question on the
subject. I’m droppin’ it like a smokin’ spud.
Thanks,
Daz

djglad wrote:

if you contacted the artist or label they would charge you for using it and that would prob cost quite a bit

Since my remix is a non-profit project to
benefit a girl with cancer, I’m hoping to
receive some contributions to help defray
the cost of clearance. I’ve been hesitant
about going through with this, but her quality of life is at stake. I’m now more
determined than ever and seeking support from old music industry contacts
and anywhere else I can.
I probably won’t burn more than 2000
copies to sell, and we’re thinking $5 each.
If we pull this off, the girl could have as
much as $10,000 to cover treatment costs.

hey, everybody. been doing some networking and found out that it’s much
easier and less expensive to sample a
cover of a song than use the master. at
some point here in the forum, i remember seeing a post saying it’s easier
to have someone do it for you-couldn’t
agree more. i still need permission from
publishers and mechanicals, but i don’t
have to mess with the label. if anyone
else wants to do it legally and you know
musicians or can cover a song yourself,
this is the way to go.
peace,
daz

[quote quote="fgp303":33n62tjy]very simple u will dont have right for nothin
if u will find the original music maker, song writer, artist and label, they can give right for the remix and if u give a grant for it u have a big luck… but never left in the 99% of the event u will not get nothin if u dont have record label in ur backside…
but if u will get rights for the music usualy its only right for the remix making (99% of the events) which not to good cos u will make it for the original artist and they will pick up the money if ur song will make some…

i think much better if u pay a vocalist and he/she sing it again the vocal, its much easier belive me [/quote:33n62tjy]agreed!

This is my first post here and this topic has been on my mind for a while. The whole legal copyright stuff can get pretty messy so I have decided apon this –

Any money that i recieve from any recordings using obvious samples from popular artists will go to charity. If the artist or their company wants to sue me then i will gladly give them everything I make off the track…………nothing. If they want to sue me for everything ive got then i am willing to risk everything I own on the fact that the negitive image they would recieve from trying to take back money off a charity would be far more damaging than anything they could possibly do to me.

To be honest, I would love to be in a situation where a mashup that I have done has been successfull enough to warrant legal action……….bring it on

Are lyrics in master acapellas copyrighted or is it allowed to use a part of it (certain amount of words in the same order) ?

Another question.
Are copyrights also violated if you modify the acapella in such way (e.g. applying lots of effects, changing the pitch, …) that the sound of the vocal becomes completely different from the original ?

durty wrote:

If you really want to do it right, but don’t to go through all the leg work, you could get a sample clearing group/company to do all the paperwork and negotiating for you for a nominal fee

most sample clearance companies ive tried to go through charge an arm and a leg

any certain one in particular thats cheap?

Don’t be afraid to make bootlegs. As long as you dont sell them, then it is a fair use of the material (in the US at least.) Unauthoized remixing fuels creativity in dance music. Licensed remixes are shite for the most part, and unless we get to the point where we can get paid by a major to remix pop choons, the best remixes will come from the bottom up. Copyright infringement is a major point of contention for sites like this one, so if no one gets into too much trouble, this can stay a free forum. But in at world where internet radio royalties are escalating, regulation of forums seems not far away. That being said, the exclusive remix will always be the best – it will keep regional sounds alive. Share them.

you cannot copyright someone elses copyrighted music… you would need permission from the original holder of the right… in the USA, BMI or ASCAP can help you track down the owners of the riffs if needed…

one note, if you want to do remixes for promotional use only, meaning you want to send a remix to a label or use on a mixed set (personal use only) to show you abilities, you can do so, as long as you are not selling or making profits on the remix…

That is very good to know

didn’t read much past the constant defining of copyrights from the first 4 or 5 posts (3 of which were from one user) ….

you can use ANYTHING thats copywritten and remake a song or remix it or chop it up whatever you want to do it to….

the only thing you cannot do is RESALE the product because even though you’ve added your own flav to it its still the original product as far as anything over a 15 second sample goes…..

you can release 10 volumes of mixtapes or cd’s @ 100,000 copies each of your remixed work of another artists song for free …. its called freedom of speach (expression is included and music is expression) … YOU CANNOT WHAT SO EVER RECIEVE ANY KIND OF NOTATION OR A SINGLE PENNY FOR THE PRODUCT FROM ANYONE …. thats breaking copyright law held on the product…. and as the artist being the sol proprieter (sp) to that product you are infringing on his rights….

hope that clears things up….

and of course yes if you get the permission (written or signed documentation mind you … not just "go ahead and use it" ) than you can sell as many copies as you want for as much money as you want but in the agreement of usage you will still 99% of the time have a financial obligation to pay a set amount or percentage to the original owner as agreed upon …..

anyone ever need contracts for this shit i got every kinda contract u might need to prepare yourself

[quote quote="2nd Nature":26ogj3x0]didn’t read much past the constant defining of copyrights from the first 4 or 5 posts (3 of which were from one user) ….

you can use ANYTHING thats copywritten and remake a song or remix it or chop it up whatever you want to do it to….

the only thing you cannot do is RESALE the product because even though you’ve added your own flav to it its still the original product as far as anything over a 15 second sample goes…..

you can release 10 volumes of mixtapes or cd’s @ 100,000 copies each of your remixed work of another artists song for free …. its called freedom of speach (expression is included and music is expression) … YOU CANNOT WHAT SO EVER RECIEVE ANY KIND OF NOTATION OR A SINGLE PENNY FOR THE PRODUCT FROM ANYONE …. thats breaking copyright law held on the product…. and as the artist being the sol proprieter (sp) to that product you are infringing on his rights….

hope that clears things up….[/quote:26ogj3x0]

That’s definitely not true. It is a myth that you can sample anything under ‘X’ amount of seconds. And, ‘Freedom of Speech’ is not related to Copyright Law where it is NOT your own creation or idea. ‘Freedom of Speech’ simply allows you to say (verbal or written) certain things that do not break any other laws.

To everybody…. Do not buy those contracts. You have seen a sample in the quote above.

n if that was still too vague for your "anisina" …

contracts are free and i have about 30+ for almost any circumstance u might find yourself in …. as little as selling studio time