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October 9, 2007 at 10:17 am #543198
silkyParticipantwhen i first joined this site over a 2 years ago, every one would get involved in topics being posted on the site, but i have noticed that over time, people have been straying away and going to other sites instead of coming here first…
why is this???i see people posting new topics all the time on here and yet they have loads of people look at them but no one wants to reply……
i think it’s about time that people one this site who are into there music and come on here regular should give others there honest opinion…… after all this is a forum based site…..so why don’t we use it like one???
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 10:17 am #634862
silkyParticipantwhen i first joined this site over a 2 years ago, every one would get involved in topics being posted on the site, but i have noticed that over time, people have been straying away and going to other sites instead of coming here first…
why is this???i see people posting new topics all the time on here and yet they have loads of people look at them but no one wants to reply……
i think it’s about time that people one this site who are into there music and come on here regular should give others there honest opinion…… after all this is a forum based site…..so why don’t we use it like one???
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 11:19 am #634868
JuggernautParticipantthe regulars still do post, but obviously there are more leechers lurking about doing what they HAVE to do in order to get all the ‘goodies’ and don’t bother contributing.
It’s sad, but at least those few (including yourself) strong members still contribute as and when they can. Obviously if people who wanted feedback for their tracks did the same for their fellows as well as dispell their knowledge throughout the forum ranging from audio chat thru the fun zone.
This would be a much happier place.
we can dream.
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 4:48 pm #634875
BuBaParticipantSometimes also some (including me) dont have time, busy with other stuff.
Also sometimes i open a acas4u then open new tab to search for what i have to do and simply forget.
Although I have to agree that quality of replys has dropped. And also agree that there are many leechers here.
Maybe some competitions would help with symbolic awards and that acas4u mixtape should also be done (i think second one was a bit downer)
All in all still good place to hang out virtually
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 6:52 pm #634884
silkyParticipantmyself……i would personally pay more attension to this site if i knew there was a sense of community…….. sounds sad….i know…..
but if i knew there were peeps who loved there music and were willing to give there own honest opinion, i would probably encourage myself to upload every tune i’m workin on……jus so i knew if i was makin any progress……but the way it looks at the mo, there just isn’t any point……
……..and i’m not a fan of leechers……..
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 7:48 pm #634887
22AParticipantYeah I don’t think anyone really likes leechers. Maybe their wives, but then again maybe they’re just kidding themselves. I try to give constructive feedback on everything I listen to/read but work/study commitments mean I’ve downloaded about 2 track in as many months. I’ve noticed that if a track is really bad someone will post feedback (though it is often not constructive) and if a track is really good you might even get a couple of people commenting.
But a lot of tracks that languish in that middle ground lose out because (and this is just my opinion) people are too scared to say honestly what they would change about the track. I’ve always thought that the opinion of a person who knows nothing about production should be given the same weight as Timbland’s (if only he posted here…). At the end of the day the people who know nothing about producing music are going to be the ones listening to it so their opinion is invaluable.
To be honest I don’t know how to solve this. I like BuBa’s suggestion of some more competitions but I think we would still have the problem of people being unwilling to really post feedback on those average/good tracks.Perhaps (oh god I’m getting ideas again – everybody run), some kind of incentive to leave feedback? And I don’t just mean stuff like "Nice track bro!" but actual quality feedback.
Actually you might as well stop reading now because this is going to be a bad idea. What about a standardised feedback form (maybe thrown into the canned messages) that included things like Good points, bad points, general comments and suggestions, and a rating out of 10.
And if these are well done then maybe throw a bonus download their way. I know we seem to solve every problem around here with "throw a bonus download their way" but it ain’t broke, so I don’t think we should fix that just yet.
I don’t know, there’s a lot of problems with this. Like there’s no way Acapella could oversee it so it would have to be done by mods. Still, a lot of work.That was a bit of a rant from me. Sorry guys. I agree though, some more community spirit would be nice. Maybe we should all head off en masse to a team building course.
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 8:23 pm #634889
BuBaParticipantNice points in your comment 22A. When I started here (about two years ago) it was like that you actually got CONSTRUCTIVE criticism here. And there was rating as I remember (dunno what happened but it had big minus since you could rate yourself).
Now I know this will sound weird but to be honest about leechers. They come here and leech whille they could do that somewhere else. If you just browse google you`ll see.The second thing is that some do upload their mixes for five times and spam whole test pressing. (But you cant do anything about it cause you would cut their will even more) Then some expect to be reviewed.
The it happened that some were offended by reviews and the wrote mean msg`s back. Most were banned off course.
I like your suggestion 22A but sure is hard to make it happen.
I think that also artists should write more about their production like why they chose that sample why do they think it works etc. I tried it once but it was only me lol
If you have a story (funny, sad etc) to write then write it, it doesnt have to be long just few words about production would be cool.
Like what made u do that beat or remix. But not on separate post lol asking others.
Just a thought.PS: Did I add you on MSN 22A, i cant remember?
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2007 at 10:01 pm #634895
Crusader808Participant22A wrote:What about a standardised feedback form (maybe thrown into the canned messages) that included things like Good points, bad points, general comments and suggestions, and a rating out of 10.I wouldn’t mind this at all. Lord knows it would help my postings.
Look, I’m as guilty as they come of leaving the "This is good!" feedback. Truth is, that in a lot of cases I don’t know what I’d change about the track. I won’t say I like it if I don’t, but I’m completely new to this world and can’t offer much behind "Yea/Nea/Good but not my thing"
AdSense 336x280October 10, 2007 at 10:14 am #634910
JuggernautParticipantwhat i think needs to also be addressed here is that a great deal of people on here are still on the learning curve of actually understanding the music process(es). Sure there are a few of us here who either work constantly in the field or have been exposed to such a high level that one listen to a track and we can name all the flaws or give good criticism.
I know i’m guilty of not doing my part in the Dnb/House/breaks sections as that’s where my forte lies. But truth be told, like buba said, i’m uber busy and if i do hear a track i really do like, then i will comment on it…
usually as a result that means i’m going to burn it to disc and go play it out on a proper PA and come back with some honest heart-felt feedback (which i’m still due to do for that cracking Daft Punk remix in the breaks area)
As for the canned messages, is this for the mods or for the members of A4u? because i can see that being used as a weapon of mass spammage by those pella-sucking vermin (i mean that in the nicest way possible)
again, like previously mentioned before, some people will throw out like 5 or even 10 tracks at once (why not just post them all in one thread?!) and if the constant result is mediocre, it kinda kills the will to even want to bother anymore.
Lord knows that’s my problem. Maybe I’m a bit of a snob with what i want to subject my ears to, but if people are going to want more than 5 pellas a month to churn out shyte as though they were getting paid for it. Then i’d much rather listen to my baby brother imitate Sesna and Boeing airplanes instead (he’s rather good too!)
Competitions have always ruffled people’s feathers, those who know they need to take time with what they do as it’s hardly a "use-once, throw away" issue.
i know i’m rambling…but i really don’t want to work today. Maybe we should think up a whole load of incentives?? (or not, seeing that it just reminds me of the cave dwelling that is my office)
[end rant]
AdSense 336x280October 10, 2007 at 11:05 am #634912
Def. Con. OneParticipantlets look at what has happened. i not been around here for long but some of the old posts had a sense of fun and willingness to help. it looks as thought that has declined over the last year for what reason i dont know. maybe the actions of members are to blame, maybe it is something thats been implemented, maybe its related to persons not getting the amount of reviews they do at other places.
what is clear is this. there are dj forums. there are audio forums. there are all kinds of forums for people to join. they (and i am one) who only come here when i feel like it and download what is the main thing here, a cappellas.
if something has happened with nuendo i will go to a place that can answer that question quickly. and this is echoed with any other question i need. i would be reluctant to ask here because of the lack of people who dont appear my tools of trade.
having a read around this place also shows some people who seem to have a)a chip on a shoulder b)insecurity which mutates into an agressive reply c)lack of respect for others views. any one of those will thwart good peoples enthusiasm and they would get the feeling of procrastination. some idiots do deserve a harsh reply (whiners) but when people are pointing things out and trying to help or give advice they deserve respect for doing it.
maybe a thanks button would help. the more thanks you get the more downloads and a bigger file quota is allowed and the rankings based on the amount of thanks they get. it should encourage people to be more helpfull to others. there appears to be no reward for helping people.
AdSense 336x280October 10, 2007 at 12:35 pm #634917
otgParticipantWhen I have time, I try to write a quick review. If the track’s good, I’ll write a shorter review as all I really need to say is ‘good track’. If the track isn’t so good, I’ll write a longer review, offering suggestions if I can. I don’t think a system of rating out of 10 is a good idea, AcidPlanet has done that for years and people just rate each other 10/10 for tracks so they can get a 10/10 in return.
AdSense 336x280October 10, 2007 at 10:10 pm #634937
aj-smsParticipantOver 1000 registered members have visited the site today. What is the maths of 1000+ and 100 postings or involvement out of those? Simple maths would be a ratio of 1:10 if 100 of these members made 1 post each. If 50 members made 2 each it equates to 1:20. If 25 members made 4 each it equals 1:40. That is terrible. A ‘community’ with an hoard of parasites.
How and why should I feel the desire to give advice to people who wouldn’t say a simple thank you!!!! It costs nothing to say thank you to somebody who has helped. More of the couldn’t give a fuck generation.
AdSense 336x280October 11, 2007 at 8:17 pm #634978
silkyParticipantlook……i’m glad you lot have come together here and relise that this site needs to have a better community……..
i was only bitching cos people never left me any feedback and you lot have opened my eyes to so much…. i’m actually beginning to think that there are people out there on this site who do care and would give a honest response to peoples tracks and topics……you lot above…
i mean……reading all your comments makes me think that there is a community still….
otherwise you wouldn’t of even bothered to answer to this topic…..did that make any sense????
AdSense 336x280October 12, 2007 at 7:44 am #635016
JuggernautParticipantabsolutely

i think it’s good to have a little rant, tends to coax people out of the woodworks and like you have done, realise that there are people out there who share the same opinion.
AdSense 336x280October 14, 2007 at 7:56 am #635109
jefpeaceParticipantI hesitate to give my opinion because I’m brutally honest and more often than not, that leads to bad feelings on both sides. I have no problem giving praise, but will only do so if it’s earned.
But … I see your point and I’ll give my opinion where it’s desired.
I didn’t understand why y’all used the term ‘leecher’ instead of ‘lurker’ then it suddenly dawned on me that this forum is actually just a part of the equation. The friend who told me about this site actually gave some money to it and he uses the acapellas in his club mixes. I’ll probably never download an acapella ‘cuz I do my own vocals, but I went ahead and joined because I’m becoming a fixed part of this scene and I was impressed with what I saw when I visited.
I signed up at Beats365 because that’s what I’m into more than anything … taking beats and using parts to create the music for lyrics I’ve written or just making an instrumental track that I like the sound of.
Anyway, hope this newbie didn’t offend anyone yet … give me time.
AdSense 336x280October 19, 2007 at 8:12 pm #635507
Crusader808ParticipantBuBa wrote:Maybe some competitions would help with symbolic awards and that acas4u mixtape should also be done (i think second one was a bit downer)Ignoring the competition angle for a moment (I love hearing what people do, but I suck in so many ways that I’d be embarassed to compete), how has the mixtape bit worked in the past? Is it folks doing continuous mixes off of songs they’ve done from pellas here and tracks from test pressings?
AdSense 336x280October 22, 2007 at 1:07 am #635641
Def. Con. OneParticipanthaving had a discussion about warnings recently i would like to say there are more benefits for a member to not get involved in discussions for fear of getting a warning. therefore leechers go unpunished while not contributing to the forums and those who want to be themselves and have a personality get punished. maybe instead of a warning a member has a download removed.
i do feel the more a person is involved in the forums the more reward they should get. there could also be the option for a member who does not want acapellas to have extra attachment size for there own creation showcase.
what is clear is intolerance and understanding of other members and we all should take a step back and look at the context they intended it to be taken. everybody should be entitled to there opinion and i feel right wing style warnings are not a positive effect to encourage members.AdSense 336x280November 18, 2007 at 6:50 pm #637369
JuggernautParticipant….everyone, including mods, are entitled to an opinion…
which is why having more than one mod gives more opinions on an issue thus giving more of an equilibrium to issues. sure some people won’t like it, but then again some people will.
C’est La Vie.
AdSense 336x280November 18, 2007 at 7:49 pm #637372
SeanzaParticipantRock-Star-69 wrote:i think mods shuold b more chilled on da forum. i got a warnin for sayin wot a mod said but it got took away. dis place seem 2 move with no clear note o wot crosses da boundarys dat get ya a warnin. if i say 1 thing 1 day do i get 1 1 day an dont da next time. sorry but im confused an dont want 2 luk bad an get da warning. fink i bad sayin dis tho. u rite bout leechers tho an how they dont get caught and end up winning cos da mods cant shoot em if they dont b a target.If you remember back to when you got that warning, it was out of a complete misunderstanding, that’s why it got removed. So don’t go shouting about how Mods are all about clamping down on people. Do you realise the time, effort, stress & dedication that is required to Moderate the worlds biggest acapella site? It’s all done for free, none of the Mods get paid, all money from donations goes DIRECTLY back into the site. And if you don’t believe that then when you see behind the scenes, you’ll realise it’s true. I’ve been therem you haven’t.
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