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September 15, 2007 at 7:08 am #542927
BuBaParticipantWho do you think assassinated Kennedy?
Write all possible answers. They dont have to do anything with real story
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BuBaParticipantWho do you think assassinated Kennedy?
Write all possible answers. They dont have to do anything with real story
AdSense 336x280September 15, 2007 at 8:29 pm #633720
junoParticipantNo doubt, Space Orangutan assassinated JFK. Highly trained, a multi-lingual Jedi master of espionage & aggressive tactics

See Space Orangutan cleverly disguised as a top Russian general in this photo?
After completing his mission he moved on to a career in 80’s movies co-starring with Clint Eastwood in "Every Which Way But Loose".

He now resides in the San Francisco zoo consuming tapioca pudding & grape soda while masterminding such plots as 9/11 and other freak disasters.

This event has forced future presidents, such as Ronald Reagan, to recognize space primate civilization & cooperate in respectful terms with the rights to the moon. In conclusion, thats why there havent been any moon landings – its not just coincidence people – JFK had to die for Space Orangutan’s habitat to survive
AdSense 336x280September 17, 2007 at 2:59 am #633775
GilgameshParticipantIt was a Predator. Haven’t you read Batman vs. Predator?
AdSense 336x280September 17, 2007 at 5:37 am #633780
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AdSense 336x280September 17, 2007 at 10:29 pm #633829
avalonandonParticipantLol…so much for a debate Buba!…more like a comic debacle – you guys are hilarious
I watched a very comprehensive documentary recently that uses state of the art computer simulation to plot out the entire event. All kinds of information that completely destroys the conspiracy theories. Including his head jolting backwards instead of forwards…both things can and do happen with similar bullet strikes.
As for its effect? I think John was a powerful mind and was doing alot of really important work. But his brother Bobby’s death was a bigger tragedy as far as i am concerned. That man was no politician or lawyer…he was a humanitarian, using law and politics to make progress. An AMAZING man.
AdSense 336x280September 17, 2007 at 10:36 pm #633830
sambres8ParticipantI honestly have no idea
AdSense 336x280September 18, 2007 at 5:40 pm #633864
BuBaParticipant[quote quote="avalonandon":vcujsqqu]Lol…so much for a debate Buba!…more like a comic debacle – you guys are hilarious
I watched a very comprehensive documentary recently that uses state of the art computer simulation to plot out the entire event. All kinds of information that completely destroys the conspiracy theories. Including his head jolting backwards instead of forwards…both things can and do happen with similar bullet strikes.
As for its effect? I think John was a powerful mind and was doing alot of really important work. But his brother Bobby’s death was a bigger tragedy as far as i am concerned. That man was no politician or lawyer…he was a humanitarian, using law and politics to make progress. An AMAZING man.[/quote:vcujsqqu]
Yeah lol its gone out of hand lol but still important is to have fun in between
As for the subject. I also watched some of those documentarys and was really surprised how things turned up. I watched both sides (conspiracy and anti-conspiracy lol) But latest I found was that Zapruder film was a fake. It debunks conspiracy theory, well for some parts and it also say that everything is possible. Its simply on facts and analysis. If you go frame by frame when he was shot you can clearly see that he infact does lean forward when gets hit. Which indicated shot from the back. I watched other stuff when ppl get assasinated from behind. And there is also a footage of that. Guy get hit in the back of the head which tilts him forward and then backwards.
But still who assasinated him? I dunno lol maybe the monkey from above
AdSense 336x280September 19, 2007 at 5:29 pm #633931
mikeq2322Participantoswald did it. he acted alone and did it with a magic bullet. yes thats right we’ve known about magic for some 1200 years now.
AdSense 336x280September 20, 2007 at 8:23 am #633969
otgParticipantBuBa wrote:…maybe the monkey from above…Slightly off topic, but orang utans are apes, not monkeys. Monkeys have tails, apes do not. /zoology
As for who killed Kennedy, it was the flapping of a wing of a butterfly millions of years ago which started the train of events which led inexorably to Kevin Costner making another rambling ‘epic’ length (189 minutes) movie.
AdSense 336x280September 20, 2007 at 8:57 am #633971
avalonandonParticipantotg wrote:[quote quote="BuBa":1k86gmf5]…maybe the monkey from above…Slightly off topic, but orang utans are apes, not monkeys. Monkeys have tails, apes do not. /zoology
As for who killed Kennedy, it was the flapping of a wing of a butterfly millions of years ago which started the train of events which led inexorably to Kevin Costner making another rambling ‘epic’ length (189 minutes) movie.[/quote:1k86gmf5]
Well folks, that settles it…
next debate!?
AdSense 336x280September 20, 2007 at 12:12 pm #633977
BuBaParticipantotg wrote:[quote quote="BuBa":211rm7py]…maybe the monkey from above…Slightly off topic, but orang utans are apes, not monkeys. Monkeys have tails, apes do not. /zoology
As for who killed Kennedy, it was the flapping of a wing of a butterfly millions of years ago which started the train of events which led inexorably to Kevin Costner making another rambling ‘epic’ length (189 minutes) movie.[/quote:211rm7py]
LoL my mistake
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2007 at 1:46 pm #634078
TommyluxParticipantI don’t know who killed him, but the theory I adhere to most is the one that says the mafia, CIA and exiled Cubans were all in. It goes like this: allegedly, the Old Kennedy patriarch got the mob to help them secure the votes in one of the key states. As the saying goes, "a favour for a favour"… so when Castro kicked out the mob from Havana, where they grossed mad money through their casinoes, the mob expected kennedy to help them, which he initially did by having the CIA train anti_castro exiles in Florida. However, when things got real hot, Kennedy backed out during the Bay of Pigs crisis. In one book, somebody wrote "we were left standing with our dicks in the wind…". Plus, JFK’s brother was aggressively taking down the mob-related teamsters, which didn’t do any good either. Anyway – the mob felt betrayed and the rest, well, is history…
This might sound a bit blown out of proportions, but I think it’s more credible than the idea that ONE man and a "magic" bullet did it. Which doesn’t mean that Oswald wasn’t involved… he was there and was probably aiming to kill JFK too, but he didn’t know he was gonna have to be the fall guy or patsy for all the other "Oswalds" posted all over the place…
But hey, we’ll probably never know for sure…
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2007 at 3:24 pm #634083
avalonandonParticipant[quote quote="Tommylux":1v406soc]I don’t know who killed him, but the theory I adhere to most is the one that says the mafia, CIA and exiled Cubans were all in. It goes like this: allegedly, the Old Kennedy patriarch got the mob to help them secure the votes in one of the key states. As the saying goes, "a favour for a favour"… so when Castro kicked out the mob from Havana, where they grossed mad money through their casinoes, the mob expected kennedy to help them, which he initially did by having the CIA train anti_castro exiles in Florida. However, when things got real hot, Kennedy backed out during the Bay of Pigs crisis. In one book, somebody wrote "we were left standing with our dicks in the wind…". Plus, JFK’s brother was aggressively taking down the mob-related teamsters, which didn’t do any good either. Anyway – the mob felt betrayed and the rest, well, is history…
This might sound a bit blown out of proportions, but I think it’s more credible than the idea that ONE man and a "magic" bullet did it. Which doesn’t mean that Oswald wasn’t involved… he was there and was probably aiming to kill JFK too, but he didn’t know he was gonna have to be the fall guy or patsy for all the other "Oswalds" posted all over the place…
But hey, we’ll probably never know for sure…[/quote:1v406soc]
Yes and these are extremely compelling arguments for the ongoing deaths of Bobby and JFK jr. One problem is, there was no magic bullet. That bullet went completely straight and people have misunderstood because of minor details in the way the car itself was built. The governors seat was a close to the floor, "jump seat" and sat about eight inches inward, towards the center of the car. This is all complete fact btw ..look at how low he is sitting in the car compared to Kennedy, to start with. Anyway, when computer simulated and combined with expert ballistic analysis of the bullet, the trajectory and the passengers…it all adds up perfectly. And oswald was an expert marksman in the military! they showed a man with the exact same rifle, pull of three shots, very very easily and relaxed, in the same amount of time the shots occured.
As for Kennedys head jolting backwards, it is not uncommon for someone being shot in that manner, to have a backwards response, and this was attested to by expert witnesses
Now, with that said, I still leave the door open for conspiracy. but it is not at all unbelievable anymore that Oswald could have quite easily pulled it off. If I can locate this documentary anywhere, I will post a link. It is extremely well done and resolves many many conflicts.
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2007 at 3:38 pm #634084
avalonandonParticipantOk, here it is. This is a very very condensed version of the documentary, done by someone else. The sound quality is not very good but this really lays out the basics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVKLtBd6GY
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2007 at 10:53 pm #634097
BuBaParticipantYeah I`ve seen this one b4 has some nice features in it. Like you said avalonandon there is always some room for conspiracy
Here is the link for more reading. Analyzing the Zapruder film. They say its fake and its quit convincing once u read the whole thing. Cant say its true 100% but it does give you another view. Its always good to hear both sides.
http://www.assassinationscience.com/joh … index.htmlAdSense 336x280September 22, 2007 at 10:56 pm #634098
avalonandonParticipantI agree and Ill check this out
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2007 at 11:03 pm #634099
avalonandonParticipantthat is really really interesting! when I have some time, Im gonna go thru all of that stuff, thanks for the info.
AdSense 336x280September 23, 2007 at 9:42 am #634115
TommyluxParticipantI’ll check all those things out too, thanks for the links. I think they intend to screen the Oswald documentary on local TV sometime soon aynway.
The funny thing is, I know what this is gonna come down to: mad new ideas and links are going to pop up and people will be drawn in a spiral again where they endlessly find new questions. That’s what’s so typical about conspiracy theories… and even if the Oswald version can be explained quite sensibly, the conspiracy theories will never stopp…
AdSense 336x280September 23, 2007 at 5:46 pm #634135
avalonandonParticipantThis is a pretty crazy pic I found online, suggesting that Oswald was the man in the doorway…
AdSense 336x280September 24, 2007 at 9:22 pm #634181
avalonandonParticipantcool…I figured somebody had to have identified the guy at some point. It seemed improbable that it was Oswald, but the site didnt offer any alternatives..lol, go figure
AdSense 336x280October 24, 2007 at 9:43 pm #635819
MelParticipantI actually only heard of this recently, but…
I heard that the US Government killed Kennedy, and that somehow his assassination is linked to the murders of Malcolm X and MLK, too. Interesting huh?
Back in 1990, there was a movie called JFK and I think Kevin Costner played in it. I CAN’T FIND THIS MOVIE ANYMORE – IS IT STILL AVAILABLE?!?!?!?? Someone let me know.
AdSense 336x280October 25, 2007 at 2:54 am #635843
jefpeaceParticipantJackie did it ‘cuz she found out about Marilyn.
AdSense 336x280October 25, 2007 at 9:57 am #635851
otgParticipant[quote quote="Random Logistics":2k15ndry][quote quote="Mel":2k15ndry]I actually only heard of this recently, but…
I heard that the US Government killed Kennedy, and that somehow his assassination is linked to the murders of Malcolm X and MLK, too. Interesting huh?
Back in 1990, there was a movie called JFK and I think Kevin Costner played in it. I CAN’T FIND THIS MOVIE ANYMORE – IS IT STILL AVAILABLE?!?!?!?? Someone let me know.[/quote:2k15ndry]yes its definatly still avaliable, try amazon or a similar site. directed by oliver stone i think, i’ve been meaning to watch it but can never find the 3 & 1/2 hours to do so.[/quote:2k15ndry]
I’ve got it on DvD… good film, heavy going in parts, not one for a Sunday morning, if you know what I mean…
AdSense 336x280October 25, 2007 at 11:20 am #635854
nicoleParticipantThe DVD is available at amazon.
JFK wanted to withdraw from Vietnam, and the arms manufacturers would have lost millions upon millions of dollars. Throw in a few evil characters with the power to instruct the people (around JFK) who trusted these characters and it ended the way it did.
Independent tests have shown it to be almost impossible for Oswald to reload and fire one single gun in the seconds it had taken to fire the amount of shots. More investigation by forensic experts also point to the need of more than one gunman, and to be highly trained. But, you probably all know that.
There are two things for certain. The theories will continue for many generations, until the official papers are released, if they ever do. And, the USA lost it’s greatest ever president. Ok, some would argue the last part, though many around the world would agree.
AdSense 336x280October 25, 2007 at 8:25 pm #635872
avalonandonParticipant[quote quote="nicole":9fk7ltne]The DVD is available at amazon.
JFK wanted to withdraw from Vietnam, and the arms manufacturers would have lost millions upon millions of dollars. Throw in a few evil characters with the power to instruct the people (around JFK) who trusted these characters and it ended the way it did.
Independent tests have shown it to be almost impossible for Oswald to reload and fire one single gun in the seconds it had taken to fire the amount of shots. More investigation by forensic experts also point to the need of more than one gunman, and to be highly trained. But, you probably all know that.
There are two things for certain. The theories will continue for many generations, until the official papers are released, if they ever do. And, the USA lost it’s greatest ever president. Ok, some would argue the last part, though many around the world would agree.[/quote:9fk7ltne]
Yeah , I tend to agree with that. But we lost our greatest potential president in his brother Bobby. He was an incredible humanitarian with vision and the drive to carry it thru.
AdSense 336x280October 26, 2007 at 3:32 am #635904
jefpeaceParticipantnicole wrote:<snip> the USA lost it’s greatest ever president. Ok, some would argue the last part, though many around the world would agree.Anyone who is a true student of political history would agree. The only disagreement I’ve found to date are misguided individuals who believe what they’ve been told by self-serving politico types.
Every time I’m asked who my heroes are the answer is always the same:
My wife (she literally saved my life in July of ’99), Rosa Parks, Bobby Kennedy and JFK … in that order.
While I’ve not made it a hobby to study the various conspiracy thoeries, the one that I find most likely is that it was a CIA operation.
I am only certain of one thing regarding the assassination and that is Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy and did not fire the shot that killed Kennedy. I’m also fairly certain that he did not fire a shot, period, and I find it hard to believe he was even in the Book Depository at the time.
But … and this is a big but … I’m not about to enter a debate regarding what I believe or why, it is simply what I believe.
AdSense 336x280April 15, 2008 at 5:23 am #647934
imakeblendzParticipantkeith hernandez from the Mets on the grassy knoll
AdSense 336x280May 6, 2008 at 2:15 pm #649174
djmauroParticipantIm really sure it was the same guy who killed Kenny.
AdSense 336x280May 14, 2008 at 3:26 am #649454
njnjk05Participantwho knows but it was definitelly a setup
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