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July 15, 2006 at 1:35 am #534598
royals101Participantn/m
AdSense 336x280July 15, 2006 at 1:35 am #593294
royals101Participantn/m
AdSense 336x280July 15, 2006 at 1:43 am #593295
subGENREParticipanttracking you drums in fl sux cuz you have to turn all those buttons on every time. I rewire everything into everything, that way I get the best of all worlds. oh, n\m
AdSense 336x280July 15, 2006 at 3:19 am #593299
subGENREParticipantn\m
AdSense 336x280July 15, 2006 at 3:21 am #593300
subGENREParticipantscru it
AdSense 336x280July 17, 2006 at 2:34 pm #593503
In SilicoParticipantThey’re essentially completely different programs. FL is a step sequencer, and ACIDpro is a complete DAW like Cubase. IMHO, I would use FL to make some real basic loops/beats and load them as audio into ACID Pro to be sequenced and tracked.
-Rob / IS
AdSense 336x280July 17, 2006 at 7:38 pm #593525
subGENREParticipantAcid is the greatest software ever written………yea!!!!
AdSense 336x280July 21, 2006 at 1:02 am #593873
royals101Participantcool, thanks for the feedback
AdSense 336x280July 21, 2006 at 4:23 pm #593971
In SilicoParticipantsubGENRE wrote:my only qualm, is that they keep releasing new versions without fixing the bugs in the last version, their busses still leak audio into the master, when the tracks are solo or muted, you actually have to mute/solo the busses tooNo, they don’t, and no, you don’t. You obviously have something setup wrong if your busses are bleeding through to the master. Especially in 6. If you have a valid copy, contact us at tech support if you are having these problems. If you don’t have a valid copy, stop complaining – it’s cracked and probably broken because of it.
subGENRE wrote:and then there is the midi problem. Automation on other tracks will affect the midi track your working with, even if they’re solo and muted. the only way to stop this is to delete all other midi tracks except the ones youre currently rendering. THis put 2 big speed bumps in your workflow.That’s like blaming the car because you ran into a tree driving drunk. You can make MIDI work in ANY way you want in ACID, you just need to set it up right.
If you are using a single VST synth, and you have 3-4 midi tracks going to that synth, then YES any automation changes made on any of those 4 tracks will affect the other 3 tracks, because you then have 4 different control signals pulling at a single synth. To avoid this, just use a seperate instance of each synth for each MIDI track that uses it.
subGENRE wrote:I have tried to contact sony in the forums on acidplanet about these issues, but instead of addressing them, the typical response from their "moderators" is if you dont like it dont use it.The reason you don’t get enthusiastic responses from the ACIDplanet forums, is because you aren’t supposed to seek Tech Support through the ACIDplanet forums. Use the real SMS forums ( http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums ), our Knowledgebase ( http://www.custcenter.com/ ), eMail us ( http://www.custcenter.com/cgi-bin/sonyp … er/ask.php ) or call us for support ( http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/suppor … upport.asp ). It’s that easy.
subGENRE wrote:seems like since sony bought it, its all bout turning out the releases=$$$$. instead of fixing the original productFYI, it’s almost the same staff that worked for Sonic Foundry, with the exception of the usual rearranging after 3 years (promotions, hirings, firings, etc). Our software is based on most of the same code, and ‘Sony Corporate’ proper really has no say in how the program is designed other than its appearance and legality issues.
Bugs and issues brought to our attention usually get fixed by the next UPDATE much more so by the next software release. Again, if you tell us it’s there, we’ll fix it.
May you have better luck with your software endeavors in the future.
Cheers!
-Rob / IS
AdSense 336x280July 21, 2006 at 10:18 pm #594020
subGENREParticipantWhat do you mean you dont own Acid. Well you better go and buy a copy NOW!!!!
AdSense 336x280July 23, 2006 at 3:04 am #594111
subGENREParticipant[quote quote="mtegrity":10u3ujd4]I used to "ReWire" FL (as slave) to ACID (as the master), but since moving to Acid Pro 6, I simply use Fruityloops as a VST instrument. That way I can use MIDI in ACID, but use FL as my "drum sample bank". Seems to be working pretty good so far. ACID is so much easier to use for sequencing than FL.
I also use an AKAI MPD16 in ACID to tigger the FL VST. The cool thing about doing it this way… ACID somehow remembers the patches (samples) that I had loaded for each track in FL, so when I change songs, the samples change automatically as well. No more having to load both an ACID file and FL file.
[/quote:10u3ujd4]I know what you mean, i use live as my midi sequencer/vst host, rewired into acid as the tracker, I also like to keep a drum synth/sampler in acid with the midi for it too. wait didnt i already say that in this thread..
AdSense 336x280July 24, 2006 at 3:38 pm #594343
In SilicoParticipantsubGENRE wrote:Actually, im very close friends with one of the ex-chatroom moderators from acid planet, "Tobi Love" is her stage and was her ap name, we perform together here in south florida, all of our (her) copies are valid.I know Tobi as well, and we almost did some collaboration work together.
While I like Tobi (yes, I also work for ACIDplanet.com) and the rest of her posse, she really isn’t an employee – nor was she ever – of ACIDplanet. Officially I don’t believe she ever moderated our chat before we had to remove it either.
subGENRE wrote:Okay check this out,Ok
subGENRE wrote:If i have midi tracks on seperate chanels, like the midi for my drum sequencer for example, the automation of each midi track affects the other midi tracksOnly if all of the aforementioned MIDI tracks are playing through the same synth.
subGENRE wrote:When you mute them it only mutes the notes, not the values. Ive even tried assigning it to a midi out in the preferences, that was actually plugged into nothing, with only the midi track I was working on assigned to a single synth, but still had the same problem.Not sure what you mean by this, but yes – muting a MIDI track will not stop the automation settings from playing through.
subGENRE wrote:it was actually tobi, who was employed by acid, that brought this matter to their attention. well at acid planet anyways.Again, the evoL iboT never worked for us, she was just a member on ACIDplanet.
subGENRE wrote:also acid only uses serial # copy protection which, correct me if im wrong, requires no cracking/hacking, just a keygen, right?No, ACID Pro and all of our software after about Sound Forge 4.5 uses an internet-based challenge and response system. A keygen can get around this by simulating the equation our registration server will use to generate the activation code, but this is a shot in the dark and often doesn’t work. Also, each program uses a different algorithm to register, so it’s not going to be the same keygen that works for both ACID Pro x and Sound Forge x.
Further, please don’t discuss Keygens or Warez on the site. Read our FAQs if you have questions about this.
subGENRE wrote:And the busses do bleed, on mine and her system also, I have a pci maudio card, shes got a firewire soundbalster xfi pro, 2 completely different hardware setups with the same bleeding problem.This would be a problem with your audio device or the way this device is setup. Assuming you’re using a delta 1010 or something similar, you should avoid using their management software for the card and just install the drivers. ACID Pro and our other software has features built-in to select the appropriate inputs and outputs, and there is no Bus Bleeding in that setup.
subGENRE wrote:Im not sure about ver 6 (it kept crashing when it was scanning my vsti’s, sonar does this too, finds a corrupt vsti and crashes instead of skipping the bad files, but thats another headache/bug? alltogether. Having to start a new vst folder and move synths/fx over one at a time and rescan. then digging out all the packaging\serial #’s for the synths that didnt like being moved, ect..)Don’t use corrupt VSTs or VSTis. Problem solved.
[quote quote="subGENRE":3n6qakr6]Dont get me wrong, I still use and love acid, Its just like windows so the transition and learning cure is gradual. Not as intimadating as other hosts (like live, ect) and the tracker is one of the most stable and solid that I have ever used. I really dont want to move on in "my software endeavors" but Im always looking for a more streamlined workflow environment and cubase seems to be where its at, I hope. But, I’ll probably end up back in familliar acid territory, like I always do. I will definitly reinstall ver 6, to see if i still have the same probs and address it to the propper channels. I guess, for lack of a comparison I’ll reuse the car analogy, maybe if I was driving a BMW instead of a Tempo, I would have been able to skid around that tree in the first place.Thanx for your concerns regarding my acid troubles.
…mike
ps- do you all need any beta testers? I know acid like the back of my hand.[/quote:3n6qakr6]
Your brand-loyal prattle moves me….
Unfortunately, no, I cannot submit you as a beta tester specifically for ACID. If you are interested though, you can apply as a beta tester at https://www.sonymediasoftware.com/corpo … .asp?id=26
subGENRE wrote:pss- Do you happen to work with a "technodrone"?No, again, she is just a member of ACIDplanet.com who was volunteering for a while as our Chat moderator. I know the whole crew though – Girlio, Technodrone, iBot, and the lot – I used to work in da chat room as well. I also do the ACIDplanet podcast, so I know a LOT of ACIDplanet members. ( http://www.acidplanet.com/in_silico )
-Rob / IS
AdSense 336x280July 25, 2006 at 1:55 pm #594474
subGENREParticipanteven if I assign the midi track to a midi out on my sound card, you know like if you want to control an external module, the automation still affects the synths, oops wrong forum, wrong site too
AdSense 336x280July 25, 2006 at 1:59 pm #594475
subGENREParticipanti see why the rest of the ninjatron desciples have flown the coop, tired of sony using as tools to sell their product, or is it sonic foundry? kiddk8 podcasts are the sh!t
AdSense 336x280July 25, 2006 at 2:30 pm #594476
In SilicoParticipantNinjathon is my boy. Subway Killing FTW.
If you assign your MIDI output through your soundcard, to an external synth, it’s still essentially sending signals from all of your MIDI tracks that are playing out to that one synth. If you have seperate synths connected to your MIDI outs, make sure to address them all both in ACID and on the synth to their own unique channel. This is the easiest way to avoid problems of this sort.
Also mate, did you download the update to 6.0a? I think they fixed a lot of issues like this in the update.
http://download.sonymediasoftware.com/c … pro60a.exe
Cheers!
-Rob / IS
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