VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

useing method 1 do you need the instremental version and the original version of a tune for this to work???

djsmarte wrote:

useing method 1 do you need the instremental version and the original version of a tune for this to work???

You need the original Instrumental and the original mix. Both have to be identical when the vocal occurs. That also means the BPM of the track.

There’s a lot more to be said about stems in the mastering process, but that would require 5 hours to communicate with some satisfaction.

Thanks

Never had any success trying to extract acapellas, even when it works they always end up sounding horrible :p

Dizzyfool wrote:

Never had any success trying to extract acapellas, even when it works they always end up sounding horrible :p

The same here ^^

I always got a horrible sound and a very unperfect acapella. I surely do something wrong and I’ll practice to make it better.

Anyway, thanks for the tutorial !

thanks for the tips

thanks for the info m8.

thanks!

Thanks lol !!!!
I´m starting on this and this topic give me an idea about how can I do my owns ´pellas

Very useful, tnx

you can do it cool edit pro or audition:cool edit pro, you’ll need two files…instrumental and vocals. both have to be the same quality. invert the instrumental and line it up perfect with the vocals and then bounce the mixdown tack.

Blessed love. Damn this forum full of info. Will try

I lined up the riddim in acid what effect do I use 2 kill the riddim?

[quote quote="TiMG":2hgryzve]heres an overview of the different methods used for extracting vocals…

1. THE PHASE CANCELLATION METHOD
Get an instrumental of a song, invert the phase (sometimes refered to as flipping), and mix it with the original.. If done right everything besides the vocal is cancelled out. You can do this in any sequencer like cubase or acid.. The instrumental must be excatly the same time/pitch however. and mp3s might not work if they are badly encoded. Zoom right in to see the 2 waveforms next to each other (look for kick drum hits) and line them up.

2. THE KNOCKOUT METHOD
using ‘knock0ut’ (http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) you can spectrally subtract one piece of audio from another. Start by extracting the centre mono of a track (soundforge or cooledit will do it with the pan/expand feature). then try and make an instrumental out of loops from the track and ‘knock them out’ of the vocal parts. This can work even if the instrumental isn’t excatly the same as the song.

3. OTHER METHODS
Besides these methods you can try Cool edits (now audition) noise reduction feature, which is very powerful. Analyse a bit of instrumental and get a profile (6000 or 4096FFT is a good size).. reduce than from the whole song.
You can also try the soundhack spectral plugins and Voxengo’s Transmodder to futher reduce spikey nosies like drums.. (don’t ask me how .. its all trial and error).

You will NEVER make a totally perfect acapella with 2 and 3. You can however make something good enough to work in your mix.. USE YOUR EARS! LISTEN and learn and you might get somewhere

TimG[/quote:2hgryzve]the first 2 methods are cool , but if u want good results steer clear of the third , it’s tricky and usually comes out sounding horrible.

and i have audacity and garageband.. can i do it on those programs? if so, how?

maybe somebody could help me. I have the acapella for smooth criminal already. To help me explain what I need to do, here is a link to a you tube version of smooth criminal acapella.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUxhokvlG_E

skip to 3:22. now notice that during the chorus you hear michael going "I don’t know. I don’t know, yeah baby yeah something, something" and then later he screams "dagone it baby. dagone it baby"

I need to seperate those from the chorus.

can anybody tell me how to do that? I’d prefer for somebody to teach me to do it, rather than just doing it for me, because that way later on when I need something maybe I’ll know how to do it.