the digital era

I’d seen someone using a computer program to DJ the music a while back.

styles wrote:

some stuff about only having CD players

Buy the vinyl, record on to ‘puter, burn on to CD. Best of both worlds.

Vinyls doesn’t last longer than cds unless someone accidentally scratches it(no pun to djs out there). It also depends on how you take care of your equipment as well. I wish some underground rapper or some dj bring back mixtapes just for the fun of it.

I’m not a DJ or vinyl purist but did acompany a friend DJ’ing once n carried about 10 kilo of vinyl (sounds like I’m vinyl trafficking hehe) and it wasn’t fun..

Whilst I can see the plus’ of vinyl, that nice old hiss n humming bass.. I think in todays market digital DJs will become more the norm and with interfaces for getting the control u have with vinyl popping up all over, its likely to soon gonna go 99% digital…

Sad but true.

Why carry 20 kilo of vinyl, when u can just cary a laptop, 2 vinyl controller type interfaces n have thousands of track rather than just a few hundred at ur fingertips?…

Til then enjoy the vinyl, cos some boffin is already programming the ultimate ‘vinyl sound’ plugin/control system n thats gonna be ur baby in a few yrs time..

BIG D O wrote:

…when kids exchange that to chop up a MP# recording of the song in their computer software….it’s so stale and bland….

I agree with you on that because sampling it from the turntable has the "flavor" from the vinyl. There are still some producers out there using the basics but since we’ve wandered from that era, most people nowadays are looking for that synthesized sound. Even myself can go for the synthesized sound sometimes but I would still rather prefer vintage. I’m not advertising but check out Damu the Fudgemunk’s work on Youtube and he’s new school staying in the old school ways.

jefpeace wrote:

[quote quote="Reggie_p75":2q9ltgv1]Why carry 20 kilo of vinyl, when u can just cary a laptop, 2 vinyl controller type interfaces n have thousands of track rather than just a few hundred at ur fingertips?…

Yeh, it always boils down to what’s most convenient. I find that sad, really. I have a lot more respect for the man (or woman) who lugs 10keys of vinyl to the booth and spins magic than I have for the man (or woman) who trots in with a few pieces of equipment and spins digital noise.

But that’s just me.

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I’ll agree with that, but at the same time if your in a club and without seeing the DJ you can tell the difference…..then your special. Most people can’t or don’t care.

No your not..because if you are then…..CDs just don’t spin the way vinyl does…I forgot I used to do that. Think about this…some day all the old vinyl is gonna wear out unless you don’t play it….how are you gonna replace those. Let’s say I have a YMCA on 12" and I play it twice a week. Every time I play it it’s of lesser quality than the last time. Eventually I gotta replace it. They ain’t pressin’ anymore.

Ya know…I wonder if you can still get an acetate cutter?

yeah not much bouncy house on mp3 download thats legit, juno are good but not a massive selection so you can’t keep up to date unless you get vinyl.

most of my new stuff is on mp3, i have old vinyl i use every now and then to bring back memories of when i first started dj’in.

ive gone almost completely digital, much more convenient

This is one that’s been doing the rounds ever since Dj’s started playing with Cd’s and here are my thoughts on it…

At first, Cd’s were just a great addition enabling you to cut and play brand new stuff right out of the studio without having to shell out on acetates. I think at that time everybody agreed that CD’s didn’t sound as good as vinyl.

After switching entirely to CD a couple of years ago I can now safely say that playing from CD’s is far superior to vinyl in every way. The lack of ‘warmth’ from CD that people talk about with vinyl is far outweighed by numerous advantages, least of all – never having to replace that special track that you’ve been rinsing in all your sets because you’ve scratched it / worn it out / lost it etc.
Also, the CD will sound the same every time you play it, unlike vinyl which degrades slightly (or not so slightly if you use a knackered stylus) with every single play.

I think the main issue regarding sound quality is not due to the format but to how the format is being published. When vinyl is cut it is also mastered by a professional sound engineer. High frequencies are reduced / limited as well as sub’s due to the very nature of vinyl. Too much bass will cause the stylus to jump and too much Hi-end will cause distortion.

Mastering creates a spectrum of acceptable frequencies that won’t distort when played through big club sound systems.

With MP3 distribution these days virtually nothing is being mastered. It is coming straight out of the producers studio and being sent up to beatport / traxsource etc. Most producers will perform their own mastering and some do this very well, but most, if they actually bother, don’t really know what they are doing – and how could they? This is a specialized area that engineers have spent years perfecting.

I get sent a lot of promo’s and probably 85% of them would benefit from mastering.

So I think when people really compare digital to vinyl it’s this they are noticing and not some nasty side effect of the digital format.

It’s not even about the producers using soft-synths as opposed to ‘real’ ones.

If you need further proof check out productions by people Deadmau5 or Axwell. Those guys get a great production sound out of their studios and Axwell for one works almost exclusively in the digital realm.

As for the initial question about digital releases coming after vinyl.. Well, I don’t notice that as all promo’s are digital nowadays but if there is a delayed digital release that would make perfect sense. Piracy is so prevalent these days that by releasing the vinyl a couple of months before the mp3 is just a way of ensuring sales before our friendly russian file sharers swamp the interweb with copies. 😉

if i could i buy everything on vynil… just too expnesive