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June 26, 2009 at 4:44 am #550304
lewelschParticipantMusical superstar Michael Jackson died in a Los Angeles hospital today at the age of 50.
The Talent and the Tragedy:
[url:2plpmf4v]http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1907269,00.html[/url:2plpmf4v]LeWelsch
AdSense 336x280June 26, 2009 at 4:44 am #669229
lewelschParticipantMusical superstar Michael Jackson died in a Los Angeles hospital today at the age of 50.
The Talent and the Tragedy:
[url:2plpmf4v]http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1907269,00.html[/url:2plpmf4v]LeWelsch
AdSense 336x280June 26, 2009 at 7:28 am #669232
acheadKeymasterThe guy was a musical genius – R.I.P.
AdSense 336x280June 27, 2009 at 12:57 am #669255
djstylesParticipantI will miss the King of Pop.
AdSense 336x280June 27, 2009 at 3:28 am #669268
DJ LevantParticipantR.I.P to a music legend.
AdSense 336x280June 27, 2009 at 6:08 am #669271
daft gamer2ParticipantR.I.P. M.J.
thriller
well miss you manAdSense 336x280June 28, 2009 at 5:18 am #669287
random1234567890ParticipantCertainly one of the most influential, if not THE most influential, people in modern music. What an icon.
R.I.P.
AdSense 336x280June 28, 2009 at 12:03 pm #669293
djshadesukParticipantH Bomb wrote:The guy was a musical genius – R.I.P.Yeah, and was a great caretaker!! I’m not saying MJ is comparable to a murderer but the sentiments of the hypocrisy are still exactly the same!
AdSense 336x280June 29, 2009 at 12:25 pm #669342
acheadKeymasterDJShadesUK wrote:[quote quote="H Bomb":ff1tmaze]The guy was a musical genius – R.I.P.Yeah, and was a great caretaker!! I’m not saying MJ is comparable to a murderer but the sentiments of the hypocrisy are still exactly the same![/quote:ff1tmaze]
Well you kind of are
If you think you’re being clever by posting a wiki-link to Ian Huntley, you need to lay off the poppers. You have in fact proved you’re an idiot.Why not start your own thread entitled:
"I know for a fact that Michael Jackson was a paedophile and because of this all of his music is sh1t (Yes even the Jackson 5 stuff he did as a child) – Who’s with me?"
AdSense 336x280June 29, 2009 at 8:44 pm #669358
djshadesukParticipantYou need to lay off the insults. If you can’t be courteous, or at least civil, you’ll find yourself the recipient of a warning!
Don’t take it personally, I only used your quote as an example, just like the link to Ian Huntley. As I clearly stated in my post I am not comparing MJ to a child killer the point was, as you so clearly missed, to illustrate that, in light of the Soham murders you wouldn’t have called Ian Huntley a good caretaker, so why is everybody doing the equivalent of that for MJ?
Yes, you could argue that Micheal was never convicted for any crimes of which he was accused, but in the world of the rich and famous that means nothing. OJ was found to be innocent too remember… and everyone has their own opinion on that. In the "upper echelons" of society it often comes down to who has got the most expensive lawyers with the most resources/contacts which is, quite often, greater that the state. Furthermore you don’t pay off some kid to the tune of $22m to essentially STFU if you’re completely innocent (and you would be openly inviting further claims from people wishing to line their own pockets).
I’m not suggesting MJ was a paedophile in the classic (predatory) sense of the word (so please do not insult my intelligence by trying to suggest I am!). However I thinks its far, far more complicated than that… Everyone knows he had a childhood far, far from the norm and even as an adult he had little opportunity for "normal" social interaction or relationships. His perception of the world around him was totally different to ours (a mental health professional, Dr. Stan Katz, even commented that at one point he had mentally "regressed to a 10-year-old boy"). Despite all of this he was still and adult and as an adult had "urges"… draw from that any conclusions you wish!
With this grey cloud hanging over him I do not agree with him being revered, now that he’s dead, in the manner that he is. It is becoming too common that, for the famous at least, society is suffering from selective memories when it comes to the darker sides of people that we’d rather not think about. Take James Brown for instance, an notorious wife beater and alcoholic, yet all this was forgotten once he died. On a lesser scale there is Jade Goody, an ignorant, racist bigot, who having subsequently died of cancer suddenly became a saint!
BTW is seriously doubt MJ, let alone the Jackson 5, wrote many (if any) of the Jackson 5 hits during that period. It is extremely common knowledge that Motown Records, to which they were signed, was a notorious "artist" factory (the Simon Cowell of the period) where it was the owner, and employed producers, of Motown records that wrote most of the hits. To describe those hits as MJs music is completely inaccurate.
AdSense 336x280June 30, 2009 at 8:52 am #669365
acheadKeymasterBelieve me, I didn’t miss the point you were trying to make and I think you know exactly what I mean re Jackson 5.
Without fluffing out a response with comparisons on the life and achievements of Ian Huntley compared to Michael Jackson, statistics on the increasing frequency of litigation cases in the states over the last 30 years etc; all I’ll say is: I think being courteous and civil is a great ethos and one worth sticking to. Therefore if people want to write a few words about Michael Jacksons contribution to music following his death, you must agree that it would not be deemed considerate to post a link to a page on Ian Huntley.
All I am saying put some thought in before the need to stir up something in a thread that’s not there. I’m sure there will be MJ post at some point where you will have the opportunity to flex some loose parallels.
AdSense 336x280June 30, 2009 at 12:54 pm #669370
djshadesukParticipantYou seem to be confusing courteous and civil (and the context in which it was being used, r.e. insults) for compliant and quiet. I, like anyone else, have the right to express my opinions on the matter too, regardless of whether you think it a valid forum for it to be discussed. Lets get some perspective here… This is a forum (you do understand the definition of "" don’t you?), on the internet, its not as though I’m standing outsite Jacko’s funeral shouting he was a paedo (which I have no doubt there will be). I’m not denying anyone else their right to express their feelings so do not try to do the same to me.
AdSense 336x280June 30, 2009 at 1:19 pm #669371
Reggie_p75ParticipantYep…
Everyone does have a favourite Jackson 5/Jacko tune and everyone has went out in their millions to buy his albums (most likely as downloads) to show how much he meant to them…..
NOW THAT HE’S DEAD….. unfortunately, for him and his family..
So why weren’t his albums selling like wildfire the weeks after his gigs were announced?
U know wot it is…. It’s GUILT and HYPOCRISY
Guilt at how the mass public treat him like a sexual predator 10-15 years ago and were still suspicious of his naive, child like manner (a man ‘robbed’ of a childhood) til he finally died.
Unfotunately, the man was ill-advised in adulthood and didn’t modify his behaviour where it should have been. Declarations of sleeping in the same bed as kids didn’t help at all either..
Now for the hypocrisy..
Together with feeling guilty, the mass public treat the whole situation with hypocrisy, declaring him to be some sort of saintly/godly character (anyone remember Jarvis Cocker’s stage invasion, at the 1996 Brits, of the laughable stage show that ‘Earth Song’ was).
Jacko’s misdemeanours are suddenly swept away in the vacuum of mass mourning by the world all over, and the f**king endless playing of Billie Jean. Don’t get me wrong, Billie Jean is a sh*t-hot track, but stop playing it to death to try signify how great he was. He was great, but not that great… Anyone remember Elvis….. (just a thought now, Are Jacko sightings gonna overtake Elvis’?)
This partial rant isn’t to say I don’t feel sorry for the man or his family as it isn’t a happy time for them, but he was a fragile person in too many ways and was ill-advised on too many plains to actually be in control of himself. He was just a puppet, a dangerously medicated puppet who allowed everyone but himself to control him.
Maybe the man is in a better place now and let’s hope his accusers can feel the guilt the rest of the world is laying on thick with a pallet-knife.
Me!? I haven’t got anything to feel guilty about as I never judged the guy and considered his whole life n not the last few years where a few grabbing kids accused him of kiddie-fiddling, probably some sick ploy by the kids’ parents to grab a load of money from him. His advisors told him to just pay them off n be done with it, as he hadn’t acted appropriately with the kids as he was just wanting to be one himself. After the first attempt to get money from the guy worked, every kids parents were gonna try it…
Also I hope Martin Bashir is having nightmares about Jacko coming down to moonwalk on his ass, as he didn’t help the guy at all… Louis Theroux (top ‘faux’ innocence documentary maker) had tried to secure a documentary deal with Jacko but lunatic Uri Geller advised him against Louis Theroux. I can only wonder how much better a documentary with Theroux would have been rather than Bashir…
Nevermind, let’s endure the mass mourning n hope that the world doesnt crack in half with the beats of a mass synchronised playoff of ‘Billie Jean’.
RIP Jacko
AdSense 336x280June 30, 2009 at 3:52 pm #669377
justifyParticipantRIP Michael Jackson.. Legend
I choose not to believe anything the media said about him (Words Of Mass Destruction)… For me, the only facts that are left are that he was a true modern genius and was persecuted like a lot a ‘greats’ in history
AdSense 336x280July 5, 2009 at 6:32 pm #669504
cameronc650ParticipantR.I.P. Mr Jackson
AdSense 336x280July 6, 2009 at 12:12 pm #669543
jyvhouseParticipantMusically i would say he gave us some of the most memorable tunes ever. Mentally he was short of a few pence.
I’m just sick and tired of lots of so called MJ fans (ever since his death) asking for his music in the clubs. Noone was interested before his death. I’m sure after a few weeks no one will be asking for his stuff again.
AdSense 336x280July 8, 2009 at 5:41 am #669598
DecibelAlexParticipanti dunno wot it is but i just dont give a f**k that he died.. And i dunno why ppl r celebrating (maybe the wrong word) him for. Immean he was a pedo..
AdSense 336x280July 8, 2009 at 6:39 am #669600
DJ LevantParticipantDJ Coppy wrote:i dunno wot it is but i just dont give a f**k that he died.. And i dunno why ppl r celebrating (maybe the wrong word) him for. Immean he was a pedo..[b:1kqi9cn4][/b:1kqi9cn4]
AdSense 336x280July 8, 2009 at 1:57 pm #669606
DecibelAlexParticipantDJ Levant wrote:[quote quote="DJ Coppy":8rve7vxq]i dunno wot it is but i just dont give a f**k that he died.. And i dunno why ppl r celebrating (maybe the wrong word) him for. Immean he was a pedo..[b:8rve7vxq][/b:8rve7vxq][/quote:8rve7vxq]
oops i forgot to censur the other word eheh
it was only a warning right? This site should have a auto censur system..AdSense 336x280July 9, 2009 at 5:21 am #669622
DJ LevantParticipantDJ Coppy wrote:This site should have a auto censur system..It does censor automatically. But I still have to let you know that you broke the rule
. It was only a warning but not an official one – even if your post on the late MJ got me a little annoyed.AdSense 336x280July 26, 2009 at 1:47 pm #670195
creepy_lordParticipanthe is not dead
geeeeehe just faked it, ordered a wax replica of himself for the ceremony, and wen’t to live in peace on an island
geeeAdSense 336x280July 27, 2009 at 12:40 pm #670234
dj_gvachParticipanta tue loss to the music industry, a musical genius
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