new vocal extraction methods i made

jimmoman wrote:

i have a question when you do the noise reduction and you select keep noise only were do you put the little bar( the bar that goes from 1 to 100)?

ya put it to 100 cos it will give max effect to the selection

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with the first method, it is theoretically possible to extract vocals from a mono track, you just have to have the right selection for the noise reduction.
before you do anythin else convert it to stereo (both tracks should be exactly the same), then, listen to the track and decide on which is the dominant sounds or sound. Noise reduce that sound on one of the tracks ONLY. Balance the volume on both tracks to about -3 db or 70.79% and then vocal cut both tracks. It should remove the ************ area. an amazing thing i found with my sample i tested it on is that it will do the opposite aswell, just select the vocal instead of the ************

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thx for your tutorial, ive got a few questions though, im a big noob in filtering, i hope u can help me..
ive tried to do ure tutorial but it didnt really work . maybe i did somethin wrong., i’ll just write now what I did and i hope u can correct me..

first of all I converted the original song (cd quality) into mono. then I converted it into stereo again. I have got now 2 tracks in my program (adobe audition 1.5)
. On track 1 is the stereo file and on track 2 the mono file (exact length).
i noice reduced the stero file and balanced the volume..And now i have got to vocal cut. whats that?

effects > filters > center channel extractor > vocal remove ???

hope ya can help me. thx[/quote:3p00kq9b]

hey mate, i see you are a newbie hehe ok, vocal cutting is an odd phenominon with stereo sound. Because stereo has two tracks nearly identical to each other you get the stereo effect. nowadays we take vocal cutting as a usefull tool. we can play tricks with the stereo channels to give the vocal cutting effect. it isnt really called vocal cutting nowadays its more of a common sound cancelling rule. it was called vocal cutting due to the fact that when the guy discovered it, it cancelled out the vocals. hence vocal cut. ill explain how to do it without the plugins of the program you got so it would be easier. OK you got the left and right channel, try and "flip" the irght channel upside down i.e. invert it. once done copy the right channel and mix paste it onto the left channel. youll notice that the left channel has lost some audio, thats becuase any common audio between two tracks has been cancelled out! you should now have somthing of either and instrumentall or a vocal! hehe! the only down side to vocal cuttng is that the resulting audio is mono, once a vocal cut is done it cannot be done again on the same track without repeating the provious processes in the extracting method i expained in the first post.

your using adobe auditon, you may hsve a plugin tool which is a channel mixer, in that tool you may find a preset called vocal cut or somin similar this will do the explained process for you.

any other probs just poste here! ill get back!

well actually i found this like short sampe belive it or not from the net of nl radio, and it worked fairly well on it, that was the mono one. As i said before it would work on certain tracks due to the nature of the track and the way it was built.

they are only experinmental methods

i done some test examples of the mono version updated

in this pack there is the original, acapella sound alike and instrumental sound alike

http://rapidshare.de/files/13868429/mono_tests.zip.html