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March 8, 2007 at 8:57 am #538956
bobwalParticipanttrying to find an easy way to loop a acapella without matching it to a beat. say for using in ableton live.
AdSense 336x280March 8, 2007 at 8:57 am #615249
bobwalParticipanttrying to find an easy way to loop a acapella without matching it to a beat. say for using in ableton live.
AdSense 336x280March 20, 2007 at 7:28 pm #616311
xiaolinParticipantI use Mixmeister and it shows you the BPM as well as the key of your tracks.
AdSense 336x280March 25, 2007 at 3:24 am #616696
AnonymousInactiveMixmeister bpm anyliser is a good seperate programme for bpm counts
AdSense 336x280March 26, 2007 at 1:52 pm #616778
eddie123454321Participantif you go into fruity loops, set the bpm of your track, then drop yor accapella into the bottom half of the playlist, then click in the top right hand corner of the sample, amenu will pop up. choose fit to tempo, this will stretch the accapella to the set tempo at the top of the screen. obviously you can set the tempo to any thing. once you have done this you can cut, paste and loop to your hearts content. you then save as wav or mp3 and export your looped accapella. the only problem is if there is a gap at the start of your sample this can cause looping issues but to get around this you can simply trim it in soundforge or wavelab. hope this helps.
AdSense 336x280April 1, 2007 at 11:36 am #617332
waynepat1ParticipantI use VirtualDJ, although it is basic have had alot of success for it.
AdSense 336x280April 2, 2007 at 4:27 pm #617463
brokoloidParticipanttraktor
AdSense 336x280April 10, 2007 at 9:01 am #618251
coojuiceParticipantWhilst on the bpm subject, what is everyone’s preffered way of making a remix?
By this I mean is it easier to do your song at the speed the acapella already is or is it better to bring the acapella upto the speed you want your song at?
AdSense 336x280April 10, 2007 at 4:18 pm #618280
WillyColeParticipantBy this I mean is it easier to do your song at the speed the acapella already is or is it better to bring the acapella upto the speed you want your song at?
I make remixes to play on given riddims (so one vocal after another on the same beat), so I use the beat over and again and I match the acapella to the song speed.
I’m not very good with computer stuff, so I just use PCDJ FX and record it into SoundForge. I haven’t figured out how to set a seperate speed for an acc and an inst in Acid. If Anyone knows, I would be really happy to know!
Peace,
WillyColeAdSense 336x280April 11, 2007 at 2:37 am #618347
TRAQBOYZParticipantbpm is not easy to find
AdSense 336x280April 12, 2007 at 2:17 am #618453
producer_pdParticipantget a clicker counter……click every beat and time it for a minute
) Too Easy ! Fucking stupid to do though…..
know the original songs bpm…..easiest solution by using maths to stretch to a particular bpm…AdSense 336x280April 17, 2007 at 1:35 am #618987
PhazerParticipantyeah, use the tap method
AdSense 336x280April 25, 2007 at 6:06 am #619672
WavestationParticipantIt can be extremely tricky detecting BPM of accapellas.
My solutions are as follows, although the MAIN roblem with accapellas is that the singer is sometimes early or late on the downbeat, (1st measure of a bar)Find a 1 bar section that you are positive that the singer starts on the downbeat (kick) (it can help that you listen to the original)…….finding the BPM of a bar is EASY (see solutions above) or by using wavelab or similiar go to the timestretch tab in the menu then in the original tempo section enter 1.0.0 (1 bar)….due to analysing the time of the 1 bar loop it will calculate the BPM of the loop. Almost any music program/editor has this feature.
Acid in the beatmapper section can do it .
Soundforge, ableton etc all can calculate a 1 bar length and tell you the BPM before stretching.The main point that YOU HAVE to understand is that all vocals/individual lines can swing early or late, by carrying and stretching the words before and after the downbeat.
so to measure the tempo accurately it is best to only work for a 1 bar loop that you know starts on a downbeat and take things from there.
(and I aint gonna mention about the possibilty of any tempo map changes within the original track itself.AdSense 336x280June 9, 2009 at 8:38 pm #668584
brokoloidParticipanttry to loop it and change slowly the main tempo while the loop fits
that works anywhere – fruity loops, NI traktor…AdSense 336x280July 12, 2010 at 7:48 pm #680947
dannydanceParticipantI always use this website and just tap it out: http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm
Then I change the "From (Original BMP)" & "To (Desired BPM)" values in Audacity’s Effect > Change Tempo.
I use Logic 9, so I can make minor adjustments to the new acapella as needed.
AdSense 336x280October 7, 2010 at 11:14 am #682765
iferhatParticipanti useto use acid pro and sound fourge, moving forward i used fl studio and now i simply find it easy to find bpm with virtual dj. other software like serato, traktor can also help. if ur a starter finding bpm i recommend using the hardest software and moving forward to the easiest that way u will have an understanding of what to do
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2010 at 8:37 am #682792
uptheirons106ParticipantIt’ WAAAAAAYYYYY easier to pick a tempo that’s pretty close to the original song and then stretch it in pieces. Takes a bit, but everything sound so much cleaner then. I’ve tried the other way and I’ll never waste time with that again.
AdSense 336x280November 25, 2010 at 9:50 pm #683837
HifiBanjoStringsParticipantI get hold of the original and run that through aufTakt.
AdSense 336x280January 30, 2011 at 2:34 pm #685375
mixer04ParticipantSampleCalc is the fastest way when I have a true acapella, although Mixed In Key usually hits the mark with these as well
AdSense 336x280February 21, 2011 at 2:47 am #685879
rockyarParticipanttapping is always good in a pinch
AdSense 336x280March 31, 2011 at 12:28 am #686499
djtopcatParticipantThe best way is a physical tap counter. The digital calculations are often thrown off by long pauses etc (ABLETON!)
my trick is to calculate the original song bpm, then go back and see if the acapella matches, should be pretty close, unless it’s time stretched
for a house mix etc
AdSense 336x280April 17, 2011 at 6:54 pm #686768
ROGUEParticipantDo this with the original track then use the speed for the accapella once its found….
start with a small loop,
adjust it till it seems in time…
then when your happy with it let it plat thru till it falls out of time again… loop that out of time section and adjust it into time… repeat doing this till the end of the song…Job done. i had to work out a seven figure tempo (185.3528 bpm) using this method, its the longest method (should take 5-20mins) but it will guarantee the exact tempo.
If you want a short method..usually accurate to about 3 figures… make a wav loop of the original & drag it into acid or most other hosts & it will tell you the original speed (not as accurate as the long way)
http://www.twitter.com/djroguePea’s
AdSense 336x280April 27, 2011 at 3:59 pm #686911
Dj aSaphiiParticipantOi Boa Tarde?
AdSense 336x280July 7, 2012 at 6:03 am #693642
djfdubParticipantGonna have to agree with the tap method, works for whole bpm numbers but if your tune isn’t straight on a whole number (ie. 126.57 bpm) then its gonna be tough to determine that without fine tuning and bit of trial and error
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