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December 16, 2005 at 1:25 pm #532556
WiperParticipantI was wondering, and i still do wonder, what is the most efficient way to protect my ears???
Over the past three years, i believe i have destroyed a small percentage of my hearing (a long story how i got here), but you just might be (or were) in the same position:
[u:3c70mzp1]I went to parties with LOUD music, not the top quality sound systems,
music goes on in my rom for 24hrs a day, even when i go for a walk or anything, i have my headset on…
[/u:3c70mzp1] Now, when someone claps near me, i hear a prolonged beep in my ears. And i get an ocassional “tinitus” (unexpected noise sensation)…Solutions: None
Or quit playing music loudly, and quit doing music.Possible solutions:
– Vitamin “E”. I have read a while ago that vitamin E is an essential for ear drums regeneration.
It should be able to slow down aging and all that comes with it… [color color=red:3c70mzp1][size size=150:3c70mzp1]???[/size:3c70mzp1][/color:3c70mzp1] True, or false?– I saw in a catalogue (chemical records, bristol) a pair of protective implants.
Very much alike those things old people put in their ears at night, so they do not hear a thing.
The thing is, they are made to cut freqs from 400 to 750 Hz for 3- 6 dBs, making a frequency curve like a “full bass & treble” in the winamp eq.
What do you gain? It takes the most destructive frequencies (those above), and takes them to a half, and thus protecting your ears…How much of this is true and real?
How much, and where, would it cost to get a pair or two, but those that have quality?Do you know a method, that is certified, to keep ear drums young?
I couldn’t get an opinion of a specialist (couldn’t find one).I really need help with this one, and i think i aint the only one…
greetz
wAdSense 336x280December 16, 2005 at 1:25 pm #581993
WiperParticipantI was wondering, and i still do wonder, what is the most efficient way to protect my ears???
Over the past three years, i believe i have destroyed a small percentage of my hearing (a long story how i got here), but you just might be (or were) in the same position:
[u:3c70mzp1]I went to parties with LOUD music, not the top quality sound systems,
music goes on in my rom for 24hrs a day, even when i go for a walk or anything, i have my headset on…
[/u:3c70mzp1] Now, when someone claps near me, i hear a prolonged beep in my ears. And i get an ocassional “tinitus” (unexpected noise sensation)…Solutions: None
Or quit playing music loudly, and quit doing music.Possible solutions:
– Vitamin “E”. I have read a while ago that vitamin E is an essential for ear drums regeneration.
It should be able to slow down aging and all that comes with it… [color color=red:3c70mzp1][size size=150:3c70mzp1]???[/size:3c70mzp1][/color:3c70mzp1] True, or false?– I saw in a catalogue (chemical records, bristol) a pair of protective implants.
Very much alike those things old people put in their ears at night, so they do not hear a thing.
The thing is, they are made to cut freqs from 400 to 750 Hz for 3- 6 dBs, making a frequency curve like a “full bass & treble” in the winamp eq.
What do you gain? It takes the most destructive frequencies (those above), and takes them to a half, and thus protecting your ears…How much of this is true and real?
How much, and where, would it cost to get a pair or two, but those that have quality?Do you know a method, that is certified, to keep ear drums young?
I couldn’t get an opinion of a specialist (couldn’t find one).I really need help with this one, and i think i aint the only one…
greetz
wAdSense 336x280December 16, 2005 at 4:13 pm #581997
acapellaKeymasterHi Wiper – I actually think you’ve raised a very valid serious point here with regards to one’s hearing and looking after it.
I do all my audio work using cans, I know I shouldn’t for two reasons – it’s not wise for the prolonged life expectancy/quality of your eardrums and I’m also not benefiting from other musical frequencies that I prob. just don’t get i.e lowerend bass – jsut CAN’t do too much work like that using cans..
Interesting though this Vitamin E – thought I’d already done plenty of that (laughs)..
As a quicky remedy for now thought – couldn’t you just lower the volume a bit – easier said than done I know “cus we likes it loud don’t we!!”
AdSense 336x280December 16, 2005 at 7:36 pm #582004
WiperParticipantChinese meds, woodoo and that shit, anything will do, even better if somone could point to a library on this subject.
i’m kinda short on time now, but anything i find out, goes straight here…
AdSense 336x280December 17, 2005 at 7:34 pm #582033
The CutterParticipantWiper,
It is very smart that you are concerened about your hearing. Most muscians and Dj’s I’ve met don’t even think about it.
I do suffer from Tinitus. It’s permanet in my case. I can no longer sit in a quiet room and hear nothing. What I hear is a continous high pitched ringing. It never stops it’s 24/7. I am used to it now I rarely notice it anymore.
Most people tend to get a temporary case of Tinitus after concerts and long nights of clubbing. So hopefully in your case this is as as bad as it gets for you and most others as well.
Here are the percausions I take to keep from losing my hearing and increasing the Tintus I currently have.
1. Always use earplugs when at shows and even when out clubing. You might look silly( you can always get custom earplugs that match closely to your skin tone) but it’s your ears not the fools who is staring at you. Also even with the plugs you can still hear the muisc well enough to enjoy it.
2. Get your ears checked regularly. I usualy get my ears checked every two years. If I am playing in bands and doing recording sessions heavily I get them checked 1-2 times a year(better safe than sorry)
3. Try not to wear headphones all the time, if you do don’t crank them cuz they are already on your ears. Common sense prevails on that one.
4. If you play in a band and you are the drummer or are positioned near the drummer be mindful of the cymbols. The cyms are what have caused a lot of my problems. I play the bass( and drums a little) and when I first started playing did not wear earplugs.
5. If you work in a recording studio for longs hours it is best not to crank the monitors. Keep them at a moderate level cuz your gonna be there all day. Also when the musicians tell you to turn it up “cuz they gots to feel it” go ahead and turn it up for a couple of minutes then bring it back to the moderate level. If they complain take the time to explain why you turned it back down. Your the engineer you run the sessions what you say goes( more or less).
As far as vitamins etc it never hurts but I’m not sure if it can really make the difference.
Hearing loss is permanent. It occurs when tiny hairs in your ears die/fallout and do not regrow(the simple explanation). Until they come up with some medical treatment to fix hearing loss it is best to be careful and take the steps to protect your hearing. I’m sure if you do a google search on hearing loss and prevention you will be able to find all the info you need on this topic.
Sorry this was so long but I guess I had a lot to sat bout this.
The Cutter
AdSense 336x280December 17, 2005 at 10:22 pm #582040
DJ LevantParticipantVery good & wise info Cutter.
Yeah its really amazing how sensitive & delicate our hearing is and since we’re all music lovers here we often don’t think about more than how good our music sounds pumped up.
AdSense 336x280December 19, 2005 at 10:56 am #582072
WiperParticipantWhat else to say… Thak you. Very much.
I’ll google right away, and i already had in mind to see a specialist, so i’m sure i’ll come up with a few more things.If the topic dies, i’ll make sure that i “revive” it
when i have a lot more detailed info.Thanx a lot ppl
wAdSense 336x280December 19, 2005 at 9:35 pm #582080
DJ LMA aka DJ LeethalParticipantThis is a great topic you’ve started wiper, it really shows how much one can care about his/her body. I think we’ve all lost somewhat of our hearing from alot of loud music or other things that have already f*cked up our ears in someway. I do seem to take care of my ears though and don’t really crank my music from my headset but play it partaily loud, just enough to be loud but not loud like I don’t give a fuc* if my eardrums blow out, lol
. I actually remember going to my first rock concert/club indoors and when I came out my head seriously felt like it was going to explode and I was off balance coming out of the place. Never again, never again! Too bad I didn’t pull a thecutter and use some earplugs like a smart guy would
. As for your problem though, man, all I can say is yes don’t start blasting your ears away anytime soon and please get them checked out and ask the doc about that vitamin E and them hearing aid things you was talking about, cause asking a specialist is a whole lot better than asking Acapella4u members.
AdSense 336x280December 21, 2005 at 5:44 pm #582174
In SilicoParticipantif this is something you’re concerned with, I highly recommend watching the movie ‘It’s All Gone Pete Tong’ ( http://www.itsallgonepetetong.com/ ) – great freakin’ flick about a DJ who goes deaf. Awesome movie, super funny, some HUGE name DJ appearances, and some great directing.
Also, Shure has these new E-series earbuds which preserve hearing because they require less volume to hear by isolating background noise ( http://www.shurestore.com/earphones/ese … rison.html ). Also, you can get custom-fitted earplugs which allow some sound to pass through for the purpose of preserving your hearing. They can now custom-mould the headphones to fit your ear for comfort and hearing preservation.
AdSense 336x280December 22, 2005 at 3:05 pm #582198
AnonymousInactiveI have a pair of custom made Elacin earplugs, they filter the dangerous frequencies and take 25db off the entire volume.
It doesn’t jeopardice your performance… I played live with em for many years now…
The plugs will cost you around 180 € (200 $ ?) but it’s better then be hearing impaired
AdSense 336x280December 23, 2005 at 12:13 am #582216
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AdSense 336x280December 24, 2005 at 2:57 pm #582296
WiperParticipantYo people.
This is what i have come up so far:Ginko Biloba – A chinese medicine known for decades (or centuries ? ) now,
known for it’s incredible healing powers, among others, healing tinitus. I belive this is true, as i have heard about this a looong time ago. I’ll seek for some first hand testimonials.D1ST0RT3D wrote – Elacin earplugs? Yeah, man, this is exactly what i have been looking for! And custom made, means there will be no mistakes.
The only thing that freaks me is the price…
Can you tell me what model exactly do you use, and for what purpose?
What do you play?S.T. wrote – Neck, jaw and upper spine problems can cause tinnitus as well.
Where did you get this information?
Interesting you wrote this, cuz i have some problems with sleeping for a couple of months now, all because a spine problem, and i often feel pain
in my back and neck… i’ll check that out with my doc again…As for literature:
[url:36auv9ps]http://www.betterhearing.org/bhi_brochure_v1k.pdf[/url:36auv9ps] – this is the best i’ve found so far. To understand what are our ears made of…
I also recommend viewing the root of the previous link:
[url:36auv9ps]http://www.betterhearing.org[/url:36auv9ps]greetz
AdSense 336x280December 25, 2005 at 10:15 am #582321
AnonymousInactive@ Wiper the model I have is called ComfortFlex25, they lower the surround sound with 25db’s. The ones I have are specially for musicians.
I used to play in metalbands, rehearsals twice a week, visit a lot of concerts, now I make Hardcore (industrial/darkcore/terror) so i visit quit a few raves where the peaks are way above 110db… That music contains a lot of eardamaging harsch noises.
[url:rngsiafi]http://www.elacin.nl/elacin_en/index.html[/url:rngsiafi]
The English site of the company where I ordered them… you can find more info about the products there
AdSense 336x280January 4, 2006 at 5:32 am #582595
djronin007ParticipantHey Wiper just read your post and i feel for ya. I dj and realized that my hearing was on the fritz as well, not just from listening to loud music all the time and going to parties but i have genetic hearing loss in one ear.
any way enough about my boo hoo story- to your ears…….try these ear plugs.
http://www.soundadvice-earplugs.com/
they are what the pro’s use and dont hurt your pocket book. they cost 160.00 bucks and they are custom made to fit your ears. They come with filters that you choose from. (ex. 10, 15, 30 decible filters). I absolutely LOVE THEM!
They have totally saved my hearing and my sanity!
Oh and it also doesn’t hurt to keep the voluma as low as possible.Good luck to ya!
AdSense 336x280January 5, 2006 at 1:43 pm #582639
WiperParticipantOk. Thanx.
Another question. I live in south-east Europe, so basicly, I have a problem. All of the official sites of companies making musicians earplugs are located far, far away from me, and i can’t just fly around (financial issue).Did anyone try Elastin’s contemporary earplugs? They say they are good for about a 6 months period. Since they don’t require ear molding, i can probably get them by an order…
Not a permanent solution, but cheaper and probably – the only solution for now, for me.Cons?
AdSense 336x280January 7, 2006 at 11:24 pm #582738
silvershadowParticipantwow, vitamin E, might look into that , and make sure im gettin enough. i love music loud too, but when we play out, we rent really good quality stuff, so even thugh its loud, u dont damage any hearing. also, during the day, i have headphones on, but i use a psp, which keeps the music to a safe level.
i heard recently on the news that there is some mp3 player (i forgot which one) but, sometin sometin, it plays too loud, and its just under the mark for damaging your ear drums, but its also just OVER the mark for safe listening. i believe its the ipod, i could be wrong.
AdSense 336x280January 10, 2006 at 1:16 am #582885
aaj2006Participant[quote:3mu2kfjc]I do suffer from Tinitus. It’s permanet in my case. I can no longer sit in a quiet room and hear nothing. What I hear is a continous high pitched ringing. It never stops it’s 24/7. I am used to it now I rarely notice it anymore. [/quote:3mu2kfjc]
i got that too! i never thought it was a "condition" though. i remember whenever the power gets cut there is this huge silence and it actually sounds like alot of high pitched noizes. its really annoying.
also, sometimes i’m just sitting there, and one of my ears goes def. it sounds like the dj in my head shifts the X-fader to the left side and all i hear is a whistle in my right ear. now thats scarry.
shit i must have Tinitus then. but i dont ever blast my music…
AdSense 336x280January 10, 2006 at 2:06 pm #582900
The CutterParticipantaaj2006 wrote:[quote:1ys427t2]I do suffer from Tinitus. It’s permanet in my case. I can no longer sit in a quiet room and hear nothing. What I hear is a continous high pitched ringing. It never stops it’s 24/7. I am used to it now I rarely notice it anymore.
i got that too! i never thought it was a "condition" though. i remember whenever the power gets cut there is this huge silence and it actually sounds like alot of high pitched noizes. its really annoying.
also, sometimes i’m just sitting there, and one of my ears goes def. it sounds like the dj in my head shifts the X-fader to the left side and all i hear is a whistle in my right ear. now thats scarry.
shit i must have Tinitus then. but i dont ever blast my music…[/quote:1ys427t2]
You might want to get your ears checked. It couldn’t hurt.
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