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November 15, 2007 at 3:01 am #543612
mofdonkParticipantIf it’s your first time at playing out to a live crowd then my advice would be to prepare a basic set in advance. Start with this set at least for the first 30 minutes, just so that you can get relaxed and calm any nerves – once you’ve navigated a few decent mixes your confidence will increase and the nerves will dissapear. If after 30 minutes you find its going well and you’re not having any technical problems then by all means divert from the planned set and go with what you think is right. However, if things start going a bit pair-shaped (for what ever reason) you’ve always got your prepared set to fall back on. A lot of Dj’s make a big issue with this whole "going with the crowd" thing – at the end of the day the reality is that the DJ has complete control over the crowd and if he/she plays a set of excellent tunes then the crowd will go with the DJ.
As for constructing a set – basically, there are a few logical rules to follow, although without knowing what music style you’re DJing I can’t be very specific:
1) If you are following on from another DJ don’t be afraid to let his/her track play out – a pause between DJ changes is good since it lets the crowd know something is changing.
2) Never mix out of the previous DJs last tune when its only half way through the track – most DJs build their sets up and their last tune is usually a big anthem. I get really pissed off when somebody does that to me.
3) Choose your opening tune wisely. As i’ve already mentioned, you may be stopping the music for a second or two, so this gives you the opportunity to drop the level/bpm of the music. Don’t open with a full on track, unless the previous DJ has done a really bad job and the crowd are bored stiff – if this is the case then emergency procedures kick in to place – drop a big anthem, preferbly one that everybody knows!
4) From your opening track build up your set gradually – watch the crowd and how they are responding to the music you are playing. Remember – They are controlling you and not visa versa. A general observation is that if their hands are in the air then you’re doing a good job – if they are dancing with their hands at waist level then they’re not putting much effort into dancing and hence are probably not that enthusiastic about the music.
5) One you are 4 or 5 tunes into the set try dropping a tune that the crowd know (or remix of a well known tune) – think of it as a reward for the crowd for staying on the dancefloor.
6) Don’t peak too early – this all depends on how long your set is. If i’m playing for 2 hours then I hit the first peak around about 45 minutes into the set, then drop it down little, and then build back up around 1hr 30, and then maintain that level to the end of my set. You don’t have to build up and up continuously – you’ll exhaust the crow! If you’ve got a longer set then follow the same pattern of building up & dropping down over hourly intervals. For me personally when I drop the level of the music I usually change the style completly, e.g, from a trance anthem down to a cheeky funky big beat number – but this all depends on what style of music you play and how broad your musical scope is. When dropping the level make sure the track is a really good one – not an average filler. That way the crowd probably won’t even notice that the level of the music has dropped. When you start playing out regularly you will build up a library of unique tunes that the crowd will recognise (by unique I mean non-commercial tunes that not every DJ has in his/her record/cd box) – its these tunes that will be crucial to your success as a DJ and that will help develop your own unique style, build your reputation and distinguish you from all the other DJs.
7) For your first few gigs don’t try anything too fancy. Don’t try playing with samplers and effects pads – just concentrate on the mixing. DJing in your bedroom or studio is very different to DJing in a club environment and it will take you a few gigs to get used to this.
Again, for your first few gigs don’t try and be experimental – save this for your bedroom/studio. Even big name experienced DJs try being all experimental and it doesn’t always work. Stick to what you know. 9) Get yourself a decent pair of headphones – most clubs require you to bring your own. A cheap pair of headphones will be useless cos you won’t be able to hear a thing, and/or they will blow within minutes, leaving your crippled. A decent pair of headphones is a worthy investment – don’t let other people use them unless you trust them.
10) Its a good idea to make sure you are confident with mixing both by using monitor speakers & the headphones and also through the headphones via a cue crossfader. I’ve been in situations where the monitor speakers don’t work very well and all you can hear is the rumble from the bass bins – being able to mix purely through the headphones using a cue crossfader has been a life saver in these situations.
11) If you are not familiar with the equipment you will be using in the club then try getting down to the venue before the gig starts and have a practice – get to know the mixer/mixing desk and how the decks feel.
12) If things are going really badly for whatever reason and you find you are having problems mixing/beat matching then stop beatmatching all together and just blend tracks together. I’ve been clubbing for years before I started DJing myself and hence from my experience bad mixing goes down very badly, whilst blending tracks together gernally goes by unnoticed as long as the music is good. There is far more to DJing than just beatmatching and mixing skills – the choice of tunes is far far more important – I can’t stress this point enough.
13) Finally, STAY SOBER! Don’t take any drugs and don’t get drunk, plus get a good nights kip the night before your gig. Drugs, alcohol and tierdness are all factors that will f**kup and cloud your DJing ability. Once you have finished your set and you know you are not needed again during the night you can join the party and catch up with whatever your preffered "refreshment" is.
Right, thats about it I guess. Building a set and the way you mix is very personal – there are a million and one ways to gain the net desired effect, and hence that is why there are a lot of very good DJs out there who all have very unique styles of DJing/mixing. However, I hope these pointers are useful.
Many thanks to Rich for this guide.
Visit: http://www.global-trance.co.uk/AdSense 336x280November 15, 2007 at 3:01 am #637151
mofdonkParticipantIf it’s your first time at playing out to a live crowd then my advice would be to prepare a basic set in advance. Start with this set at least for the first 30 minutes, just so that you can get relaxed and calm any nerves – once you’ve navigated a few decent mixes your confidence will increase and the nerves will dissapear. If after 30 minutes you find its going well and you’re not having any technical problems then by all means divert from the planned set and go with what you think is right. However, if things start going a bit pair-shaped (for what ever reason) you’ve always got your prepared set to fall back on. A lot of Dj’s make a big issue with this whole "going with the crowd" thing – at the end of the day the reality is that the DJ has complete control over the crowd and if he/she plays a set of excellent tunes then the crowd will go with the DJ.
As for constructing a set – basically, there are a few logical rules to follow, although without knowing what music style you’re DJing I can’t be very specific:
1) If you are following on from another DJ don’t be afraid to let his/her track play out – a pause between DJ changes is good since it lets the crowd know something is changing.
2) Never mix out of the previous DJs last tune when its only half way through the track – most DJs build their sets up and their last tune is usually a big anthem. I get really pissed off when somebody does that to me.
3) Choose your opening tune wisely. As i’ve already mentioned, you may be stopping the music for a second or two, so this gives you the opportunity to drop the level/bpm of the music. Don’t open with a full on track, unless the previous DJ has done a really bad job and the crowd are bored stiff – if this is the case then emergency procedures kick in to place – drop a big anthem, preferbly one that everybody knows!
4) From your opening track build up your set gradually – watch the crowd and how they are responding to the music you are playing. Remember – They are controlling you and not visa versa. A general observation is that if their hands are in the air then you’re doing a good job – if they are dancing with their hands at waist level then they’re not putting much effort into dancing and hence are probably not that enthusiastic about the music.
5) One you are 4 or 5 tunes into the set try dropping a tune that the crowd know (or remix of a well known tune) – think of it as a reward for the crowd for staying on the dancefloor.
6) Don’t peak too early – this all depends on how long your set is. If i’m playing for 2 hours then I hit the first peak around about 45 minutes into the set, then drop it down little, and then build back up around 1hr 30, and then maintain that level to the end of my set. You don’t have to build up and up continuously – you’ll exhaust the crow! If you’ve got a longer set then follow the same pattern of building up & dropping down over hourly intervals. For me personally when I drop the level of the music I usually change the style completly, e.g, from a trance anthem down to a cheeky funky big beat number – but this all depends on what style of music you play and how broad your musical scope is. When dropping the level make sure the track is a really good one – not an average filler. That way the crowd probably won’t even notice that the level of the music has dropped. When you start playing out regularly you will build up a library of unique tunes that the crowd will recognise (by unique I mean non-commercial tunes that not every DJ has in his/her record/cd box) – its these tunes that will be crucial to your success as a DJ and that will help develop your own unique style, build your reputation and distinguish you from all the other DJs.
7) For your first few gigs don’t try anything too fancy. Don’t try playing with samplers and effects pads – just concentrate on the mixing. DJing in your bedroom or studio is very different to DJing in a club environment and it will take you a few gigs to get used to this.
Again, for your first few gigs don’t try and be experimental – save this for your bedroom/studio. Even big name experienced DJs try being all experimental and it doesn’t always work. Stick to what you know. 9) Get yourself a decent pair of headphones – most clubs require you to bring your own. A cheap pair of headphones will be useless cos you won’t be able to hear a thing, and/or they will blow within minutes, leaving your crippled. A decent pair of headphones is a worthy investment – don’t let other people use them unless you trust them.
10) Its a good idea to make sure you are confident with mixing both by using monitor speakers & the headphones and also through the headphones via a cue crossfader. I’ve been in situations where the monitor speakers don’t work very well and all you can hear is the rumble from the bass bins – being able to mix purely through the headphones using a cue crossfader has been a life saver in these situations.
11) If you are not familiar with the equipment you will be using in the club then try getting down to the venue before the gig starts and have a practice – get to know the mixer/mixing desk and how the decks feel.
12) If things are going really badly for whatever reason and you find you are having problems mixing/beat matching then stop beatmatching all together and just blend tracks together. I’ve been clubbing for years before I started DJing myself and hence from my experience bad mixing goes down very badly, whilst blending tracks together gernally goes by unnoticed as long as the music is good. There is far more to DJing than just beatmatching and mixing skills – the choice of tunes is far far more important – I can’t stress this point enough.
13) Finally, STAY SOBER! Don’t take any drugs and don’t get drunk, plus get a good nights kip the night before your gig. Drugs, alcohol and tierdness are all factors that will f**kup and cloud your DJing ability. Once you have finished your set and you know you are not needed again during the night you can join the party and catch up with whatever your preffered "refreshment" is.
Right, thats about it I guess. Building a set and the way you mix is very personal – there are a million and one ways to gain the net desired effect, and hence that is why there are a lot of very good DJs out there who all have very unique styles of DJing/mixing. However, I hope these pointers are useful.
Many thanks to Rich for this guide.
Visit: http://www.global-trance.co.uk/AdSense 336x280November 15, 2007 at 9:54 am #637177
otgParticipantmofdonk wrote:If it’s your first time at playing out to a live crowd then my advice would be to prepare a basic set in advance. Start with this set at least for the first 30 minutesBad advice, IMHO. What happens if the DJ you’re following has already played all those tunes? You’re better practicing mixing groups of two or three tunes together, then you only need worry about mixing the last of one group into the first of the next set. This also gives flexibility to move the direction of the music.
mofdonk wrote:A lot of Dj’s make a big issue with this whole "going with the crowd" thing – at the end of the day the reality is that the DJ has complete control over the crowd and if he/she plays a set of excellent tunes then the crowd will go with the DJ.What the DJ believes are excellent tunes may not necessarily be what the crowd thinks are excellent tunes. I played gigs every weekend for over 5 years in clubs in underground clubs in and around Bristol and I know from experience that what makes one crowd leap about can make another crowd in a different venue sit down. Ultimately, the DJ is there to entertain the crowd and play the music that they want, not to show of how musically educated they are.
mofdonk wrote:2) Never mix out of the previous DJs last tune when its only half way through the track – most DJs build their sets up and their last tune is usually a big anthem. I get really pissed off when somebody does that to me.On the flipside of that, don’t mix your last tune in without time for most of it to play out before the end of your set – eg, if the track is 7 minutes long, mix it in 5 minutes before the end of your set at the latest so the next DJ can be cueing up and mixing his first tune at the beginning of their set, not five minutes later.
mofdonk wrote:if they are dancing with their hands at waist level then they’re not putting much effort into dancing and hence are probably not that enthusiastic about the music… or it’s five in the morning and they’re all wasted from dancing all night, but they just can’t leave the dancefloor.
One final point… Don’t stand by the decks while you’re mixing looking bored and sullen, even if no-one is on the dancefloor. Look like you’re enjoying yourself, the DJ is the visual focal point of the room until the floor is so rammed there’s only a sea of hands. Jump about, wave records in the air, do anything but look bored, you’re the ENTERTAINER.
AdSense 336x280November 15, 2007 at 10:22 am #637178
djshadesukParticipantmofdonk wrote:13) Finally, STAY SOBER!I actually prefer to have a few beers (when I’m not driving of course!), it helps me to relax a little.
I know a DJ who used to get absolutely f**ked off his face on drink and, allegedly *cough* other substances. How he stood up, never mind mix, was a complete mystery. Strange thing is though his mixing got better and he would absolutely rock the place… without fail!!!
AdSense 336x280November 15, 2007 at 10:44 am #637184
JuggernautParticipantCant be bothered to read the entire thing as the poster has royally f**ked me off with the 50+ rubbish spam posts he left to be cleaned up this morning…
But from what i’ve skim read, i pretty much disagree with a hell of a lot of it.
If you’ve managed to bag a set, it’s based on your charisma/personality and the demo you gave the promoter/manager. So just up the juice on what you’ve perfected in your bedroom.
The drink issue is an interesting one…generally people who start out will have butterflies…even if most of the people there are their mates. I used to go into clubs waaaay before my set, mainly to listen to what the dj’s are playing so i don’t play the same thing (or just play a dub or something) but also to have a few drinks, talk to some people….you know, chillax before getting up there and doing your thing.
Oh….and THE MOST VALUABLE THING YOU COULD HAVE FOR DJING…….is a decent pair of ear plugs. if you can wear them whilst your djing, all the better. Elacin do some good ones for about 12 quid but you can’t wear them with headphones on. the custom ER-15 in-ear jobbies are fantazmic tho

Let’s face it ….you’re fuxx0red without your ability to hear.
AdSense 336x280November 15, 2007 at 5:21 pm #637207
coojuiceParticipant[quote quote="mofdonk":1upobdrh] the DJ has complete control over the crowd and if he/she plays a set of excellent tunes then the crowd will go with the DJ.
4) watch the crowd and how they are responding to the music you are playing. Remember – They are controlling you and not visa versa.
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lol!
Bit of a contradiction there…
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gwattParticipantI would just add: I’ve played a whole selection of the latest tracks by some massive artists and I then I got a request for NEW music LOL.
So as they people have said its important to know some tracks that the crowd knows. If there rest of you music is quality and mixed well (yes I know this is aimed at beginners) then you can take the crowd with you!1 IMHO
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