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April 16, 2008 at 6:49 pm #545590

Dj-Esi
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some styles of music mainly dance styles uses a lot of samples from films i was just wondering on legal issues with this i know their are some with acapellas as ive read the littel post bit but for films are they royalty free licensed to the films ppl or the perosn who speeks them

was jsut tad curious tbh any ideas ?

Ty
Esi

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April 16, 2008 at 6:49 pm #648060

Dj-Esi
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some styles of music mainly dance styles uses a lot of samples from films i was just wondering on legal issues with this i know their are some with acapellas as ive read the littel post bit but for films are they royalty free licensed to the films ppl or the perosn who speeks them

was jsut tad curious tbh any ideas ?

Ty
Esi

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April 16, 2008 at 6:53 pm #648062

otg
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Theoretically, you should seek the copyright holder’s permission to use the sample.

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April 16, 2008 at 7:21 pm #648065

Juggernaut
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aye, with films it’s all copywritten too.
think about the scriptwriter, and the producer, and the director’s rights?! then the commission to the actors, then the company itself etc. etc.

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April 16, 2008 at 9:17 pm #648078

bumpthechannel
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You could have a look here, as these are all out of copyright films plus lots of other interesting stuff:

http://www.archive.org/index.php

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April 16, 2008 at 9:37 pm #648080

Dj-Esi
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ok cool i will have a look into that jsut alot of film samples are used in gabber or gabba

they use one liners from films or motivational speechs from famous people and have been published on vinyl, albums etc

few i can think off as exampels are these

erm the shinning "heres johnny"

be cool "dont tell me to be cool… i am cool"

stuff like that but cheers for link will have a gander at that later on 😉

Esi

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April 17, 2008 at 5:26 pm #648119

Juggernaut
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yeah they exist…and are typically "whitelabels" of some description. the legality issues as far as vinyl is concerned is sticky..
Hell, i could record all my dvd’s to vinyl (it would cost a bloody fortune mind!) and go to vinyl stores, talk to the manager and get in with a few quid for my troubles.

Doesn’t make it legal though.

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April 17, 2008 at 6:26 pm #648123

ChunkyEatsMyDinner
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From what I understand, films are a real killer for any clearance.
If your track is based round a sample for a film and it rockets to the popularity of
the charts, your gonna be looking at giving a HUGE % of profits if you havnt cleared
the sample 1st. 100% in some cases.
The film industry earns such mega money they are not gonna be interested in any
sort of negotiations regarding a song release, it will be either give us everything or you dont use it.
I think a bhangra track sampling Night rider earnt no cash from the the track after
a white label took off without sample clearance.

But as J mentioned, white labelling stuff is a completely different ball game to commercial
releases.

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April 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm #648169

Dj-Esi
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im tlking bout proper labels and cds

i shall give a few examples

this song is huge in the gabber scene
http://www.discogs.com/release/246705

it uses a sample form army of darkness the boomstick speech bit

http://www.discogs.com/release/589783
thsi one uses samples form be cool

these are mearly a few

so unless they start apear on uk top 40 or sumink ppeople aernt really gonna mind ?

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April 19, 2008 at 2:19 pm #648197

Dj-Esi
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mmm will have to have a look at this more seem to have opened a real can of worms lol

Esi

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April 19, 2008 at 7:42 pm #648210

yazza187
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[quote quote="Random Logistics":3qkjvqwc]I’ve heard quite a few drum and bass tunes, where theyve used film samples from famous films and i presume have paid no royalties. I think as long as you don’t get a top 40 record youre allright, although im not a person to be taking legal advice from.

Didnt Dr dre get sued by Geoge Lucas for using a sample from star wars? sure i heard that somewhere.[/quote:3qkjvqwc]

yes he did get sued for the start of 2001 "lolo" before the lowrider bouncing their is the THX music which he didn’t ask to use and got sued i think it got settled out of court though

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April 21, 2008 at 12:16 am #648253

anisina
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Anything film with dialogue or music still has the same force of copyright as music. The problem with the user is, the movie industry is more protective of how any use of their material happens.

They can always argue "you copied the whole thing" to enable the use, and if you break their end user licence you will be signing over 100% of a royalty.

Furthermore, the film industry pay a lot lot more attention to the underground music scene than most record companies do. Why? Because they want something that fits the scene of the image, rather than fits the image of the scene.

You will be very surprised at who has the real power out there for this type of thing.

Research what a publisher does and how and why.

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