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August 27, 2011 at 7:42 pm #556546
DJJaufreParticipantCurrently I’m trying to make a mix involving till I collapse by Eminem. However, this thing will not stay on beat. Whenever i try to find the BPMs using beatmapper wizard in Sony Acid, it moves further and further off the metronome with every section. I first thought that it was eminem himself, and that was just how the song was suppose to be. So I brought in the original track with the beat and just planned to match it that way. However, they did not match! Even with their bpm’s equal at 85.7 one was faster than the other despite the fact they’re the same song. As I said before, it seems impossible to find the beat because when I match the metronome in one line it consistently gets further away from matching. Anyone have any insight for this problem, because I’m pretty confused.
AdSense 336x280August 27, 2011 at 7:42 pm #688628
DJJaufreParticipantCurrently I’m trying to make a mix involving till I collapse by Eminem. However, this thing will not stay on beat. Whenever i try to find the BPMs using beatmapper wizard in Sony Acid, it moves further and further off the metronome with every section. I first thought that it was eminem himself, and that was just how the song was suppose to be. So I brought in the original track with the beat and just planned to match it that way. However, they did not match! Even with their bpm’s equal at 85.7 one was faster than the other despite the fact they’re the same song. As I said before, it seems impossible to find the beat because when I match the metronome in one line it consistently gets further away from matching. Anyone have any insight for this problem, because I’m pretty confused.
AdSense 336x280August 29, 2011 at 7:14 am #688637
Mr BlondeParticipantThis has happens quite a lot, what I do if it’s the case is to use another editing program (audition/soundforge etc) to split up the acapella at points where it drifts off and import each section into Acid. If you then beatmap each section you’ll get there. If you are able to cut one song (acapella) into 4, 6 or even 8 parts and beatmap each section then this should fix the problem
Cheers
OuterHearAdSense 336x280August 30, 2011 at 11:35 am #688662
DJJaufreParticipantThanks. I’ll try that.
But I’m still confused on how this even happens.AdSense 336x280August 31, 2011 at 4:36 pm #688688
flashingbladeParticipantDJJaufre wrote:Currently I’m trying to make a mix involving till I collapse by Eminem.I listened to "Till I collapse" and I would say that the verse is delivered in a loose, off-the-beat style while the chorus is tight and on-beat. So trusting a piece of software to come up with an exact BPM is a tall order because of those languid verses.
As a comparison — VirtualDJ displays a BPM when loading a track and I sometimes find the figure is wrong, I always confirm with a metronome.
DJJaufre wrote:Whenever i try to find the BPMs using beatmapper wizard in Sony Acid, it moves further and further off the metronome with every section.One approach I would try is to extract a single instance of the chorus and beatmap it by itself, the BPM figure from this is likely to be true for the whole track. I would attempt this myself to see how far the result is from 85.7 however I’m away from home until the weekend.
AdSense 336x280September 2, 2011 at 11:50 am #688745
djshadesukParticipantAnother cause of the problem could be that some acapellas and instrumentals are pitch shifted by fractions of a second in an effort to prevent people from using the inverse-mixing methods to make either an acapella or instrument (where one or the other doesn’t exist) from the original full tracks.
AdSense 336x280September 13, 2011 at 6:22 am #688938
DJJaufreParticipantI actually found had another acapella for till I collapse and it worked perfectly. Hopefully I don’t run into this probably again.
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