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February 15, 2004 at 9:48 pm #529585
TiMGParticipantok.. wasn’t sure where to put this but this bit will do i guess..
right.. sometime ago i posted a thread on the ‘pc/mac software’ section detailing my method of extracting vocals from tracks… It would be really good if more people could get involved with this. I’m confident alot of tracks out there can be ‘pella-fied’ sufficiently for remixing.. and a lot of new tracks don’t have acapellas or instrumentals released with them..
heres a vocal extraction of avril lavinge – ‘skat8r Boi’—->
that i created using my methodcomments and/or improvements on the results i’m getting would be most welcome. I don’t know if people are using my method (which took me a fair while to develop) but if you are then I’d really apprieciate some feedback from you..
AdSense 336x280February 15, 2004 at 9:48 pm #564986
TiMGParticipantok.. wasn’t sure where to put this but this bit will do i guess..
right.. sometime ago i posted a thread on the ‘pc/mac software’ section detailing my method of extracting vocals from tracks… It would be really good if more people could get involved with this. I’m confident alot of tracks out there can be ‘pella-fied’ sufficiently for remixing.. and a lot of new tracks don’t have acapellas or instrumentals released with them..
heres a vocal extraction of avril lavinge – ‘skat8r Boi’—->
that i created using my methodcomments and/or improvements on the results i’m getting would be most welcome. I don’t know if people are using my method (which took me a fair while to develop) but if you are then I’d really apprieciate some feedback from you..
AdSense 336x280February 16, 2004 at 10:51 am #564987
acapellaKeymasterTiMG wrote:comments and/or improvements on the results i’m getting would be most welcome. I don’t know if people are using my method (which took me a fair while to develop) but if you are then I’d really apprieciate some feedback from you..TiMG – This is BAng-On mate. Absolutely spot-on.. The Vox are clear as a bell, the backing in the form on percussion & some bass is of course noticeable but hey whatever this style of acapella would be mixed with im sure would have bass & drums in it anyway so – what I’m saying is it wouldn’t be an issue imho.
Anything you can do about the “swirly – slightly phasing” sound going on on the vocals or is this simply a side-effect of the algorithms going about their job ?
jmoney wrote:i like my method way betterWhat the hell are you talking about – lol. Your link on soundclick doesn’t mention any skater boy bootleg or remix attempts or any links to an “acapella creating tutorial” of any kind – explain yourself please
TiMG – Spot on – I’d like to hear from ANYONE if you think you can do better with this track ok ?
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AdSense 336x280February 16, 2004 at 6:24 pm #564989
TiMGParticipantcheers mate.
the ‘swirly sounds’ are mainly a result of the spectral compander (soundhack vst plugin) .. it helps reduce non-fundamental frequencies.
The post cooledit ‘vocal’ sounds less swirly.. theres just a little more background instruments.. You’ll probably find these swirly sounds unoticeable when mixed in to a track well
AdSense 336x280February 17, 2004 at 4:44 pm #564992
acapellaKeymasterMathias wrote:is there somewhere to d/l this ?Google “soundhack vst plugin”
AdSense 336x280February 18, 2004 at 10:47 am #564993
TiMGParticipantFebruary 26, 2004 at 2:38 pm #565005
TiMGParticipantno probs .. let me know if ur getting good results
AdSense 336x280March 1, 2004 at 1:10 am #565009
aaj2006Participantok, i didnt hear much about phase inversion in here so i’d like to point you to a site that will fill in the blanks for those of you who dont know how it might be done. hell, this site is where i got the link for this page. jmoney and some others have posted in this page.
http://www.4trak.net/dsico/archives/000082.html
its a very addictive site, only now a days, some asshole keeps writing bulshit. not much going on anymore.
AdSense 336x280March 1, 2004 at 7:13 pm #565011
korovisionParticipantdsico’s phase inversion trick half worked for me. i got a few seconds of only vocals for an unkle track (rabbit in your headlights) and everynow andagaon you could get some bit of magic but not much. but thats about the only cd single i have with an instrumental on it. singles eh?
what about the deltron 3030 albums, has anyone managed to grab any acapellas off that? maybe i should check that long list. hmmmAdSense 336x280March 2, 2004 at 10:23 am #565013
BoBoParticipantI dont’ want to be negitive here or piss anyone off….. but do you honestly consider this an acapella? You couldn’t used this for a remix… I mean it was a good effort but I wouldn’t try to use it to make a remix. Think of it this way. Lets say you take that Skater boi file you made and played it in a club (as is) on a big club system you would still get some g00d sound out of it. you would get some bass, not a lot but some, and that hat would be loud. Anyways… lets say you make a new mix using that file you made your levels would be fucked…. you know what I mean. You put a whole new beat behind it, it is gonna mix with the remaining beat from your acapella attempt and and it just won’t be a good sound. I am not trying to put you down or anything Props to you for trying to find new ways of making acapellas we need mroe people like you, and if the way you do it works for you, then right on keep it up, but I have alot of experience in producing and remixing and I am telling you…. you put a new beat behind that acapella and hook it up to a big system and your gonna hear it.
Hey try my method for making pellas I posted it in the same place you posted your last one.
Peace, and best of luck!
AdSense 336x280March 3, 2004 at 2:50 pm #565017
TiMGParticipantwell. it depends on the beat.. eq and compression can make sure anything left from the kick wont be noticed in a new mix.. the snare might be a prob
but if you get it matched up with the new track right (and theres a lot of music to choose from for that simple snare pattern) it shouldnt be a prob.i see wot ur sayin.. its always better to have a real pella. but i wouldnt say its a unuseable method.. some of my mtv mash tracks have been done like this
(girls aloud vs kings of leon, andrew wk vs beastie boys.. )probably wudnt call it a pella. more of a vocal extraction.
levels etc:… its all down to your mixing .eq, compression, reverb, delay etc.. when mixing, a vocal, even a proper pella, isn’t meant to be left uncompressed+eqd imo
AdSense 336x280March 11, 2004 at 2:35 pm #565037
TiMGParticipanti posted my method sometime ago
[quote:3872iw52]There are actually ways to get clear, perfect pellas without any hat or drums or anything, but you will need a few thousand dollars to be able to achieve this and i just dont have the money to spend on that right now and also wont go into detail right here,,,, [/quote:3872iw52]
are they? without an instrumental
share the info?AdSense 336x280May 21, 2004 at 11:24 am #565540
TiMGParticipanthey look no instrumental
AdSense 336x280May 22, 2004 at 11:47 am #565557
TiMGParticipantwhoops!
changed it nowAdSense 336x280May 22, 2004 at 6:50 pm #565567
TiMGParticipant[quote:1w1fmva7]i think u need to repost that it doesnt work….by the way can u please help me out using the noise reduction method that u use? ill hook u up with anything u want in return[/quote:1w1fmva7]
hmm.. anything? hook me up?
how about hookin me up with christina milian?
i’ve explained most the stuff i do here. my methods have improved a bit recently using sp3novas knockout plugin.. the main thing is PATIENCE which alot of you don’t seem to have. there aint no magic 2 second method of doing this.. remember you are isolating a layer of sound. and all music is produced differently..
find a cleanly produced track … first do noise reduction in cool edit to remove the bass more than anything (take a small noise red profile 6000FT of some bass ambience from the track)
then work out the tempo and get the centre mono up on a track in cubase.. cut an instrumental part for the bit u want vox (or try and recreate one if you have to) and loop under the vocals.. load up the knockout plugin (using the instructions sp3nova provides on his site) run the plugin on the master output with the theshold set to 0.. then play with the levels of the instrumental loop and centre mono track (with vox)..thats the best i can do for ya.. the rest is eq and compression which you just have to have an ear for
AdSense 336x280June 5, 2004 at 10:37 pm #565748
akbarParticipant[quote:3o0hy6fs]There are actually ways to get clear, perfect pellas without any hat or drums or anything, but you will need a few thousand dollars to be able to achieve this and i just dont have the money to spend on that right now and also wont go into detail right here,,,, [/quote:3o0hy6fs]
are you sure? cuz the voice frequencies are often the same as some instruments or percussion so i dont think there is a way to just filter it out even with a billion dollar device.
AdSense 336x280June 5, 2004 at 10:39 pm #565749
akbarParticipantive only been succesful with the inverting one and got crappy results with channel mixing and eqing it
AdSense 336x280June 15, 2004 at 4:06 pm #565839
JackThaRipperParticipantHey where can you get that vocal extracting software? Id like to try that.
AdSense 336x280June 26, 2004 at 5:58 am #565912
acheadKeymasterFa Sho
AdSense 336x280August 21, 2004 at 1:24 pm #566330
TiMGParticipant[quote:12ltbn3u]Tim,
Do you know of any good plug-in for x86 (PC’s) as opposed to Macs?
Thank,
– ds-[/quote:12ltbn3u]
the best plugin i know of is sp3nova’s ‘knockout’..
do a search on gybo.proboards4.com for sp3nova and acapella or somthing.. u should find it.. its freeAdSense 336x280December 11, 2004 at 8:20 pm #567655
vipzenParticipantmrfabrice wrote:but the sound is never correctbut you can workaround and corret this
AdSense 336x280January 1, 2005 at 4:58 am #567998
ytknowsParticipantI downloaded that “knockout” vst and I’ve had great luck with almost every song i’ve tried, even some where the instrumental was nowhere near the quality of the song with the vocals…
i think it’s all a matter of matching sample to sample best you can.
also, I’ve been trying for years to bring up Shannon Hoon’s backup vocals on the Guns ‘N Roses track “Don’t Cry,” and am finally having much success with this method.
once i get more acapellas done nicely, i’ll start uploading them by the dozen
AdSense 336x280January 23, 2005 at 9:00 am #568320
marcicanoParticipanti heard that timg has died in a car crash, what do we do now.
AdSense 336x280January 23, 2005 at 9:03 am #568321
marcicanoParticipanti made god bless the dead from 2pac but cant post it on, i all ready submited it,and i dont see it on the list its been a few dayz now. o well guess nobody will get my 2pac acapellas, cuz im in the prosses of making stairing through my rearview miorr by 2pac. o well
AdSense 336x280January 24, 2005 at 3:55 pm #568341
TiMGParticipanti’m back from the dead you know..
the info is all in the forum.
i’ll do a summary of methods and stuff soon
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