VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Nice man, thanks. Never had a go at making my own acapella’s really. But there’s a fair few tunes i have in mind that aren’t on this site.

For the first method I think he only referred to flipping which is basically switching the full left and right channels so that you basically have the negative wave of the song. When you match up the original & the invert the instrumentals will cancel each other out. The vocals will remain since there is no negative vocal frequency on the instrumental to cancel them out.

Think about it like math: say the vocals are X and the instrumental surrounding them is 1

(X+1)

You need the opposite of the instrumental to cancel it out and leave the vocals. Negative one is the inverted instrumental – the opposite. Leaving you with just the vocal if done right.

(X + 1) – 1

I havent got it down yet but I know it works from some of the tries I’ve done. I would’ve never known about this stuff if it weren’t for Tim though – cheers m8

This knockout this looks kinda sweet.

i have a hypothisis that might work by enhancing ur acapellas diy’s. u will need a program called vocal imitation & recognition, it is suposed to imitate any ones voic, well once u have ur voice changed into there voice it will sound like the diy acapellas voice but more enhanced versoin, once u got that part done mix the two voices together and it should make ur diy acapellas sound alot better and not so robotic and echo’y, give it a try, download dub master, or vocal imitation & recognistion, what do u think about this, any comments,
ps i was thinking what if i matched a computer generated text to voice program that can sing or make words, from lyrics, change that voice into the imitated voice, mix them together matching words. then adding some chrior effect to it. so it will sound doubled.
this is very logical. i think eminem might have done this kind of method, because i can swear in one of 2pac’s songs on loyal to the game u can hear 2pac and emenem mixed together, just that emenems voice is emitated to 2pac’s voice in a way that u can hear only 2pac and can bearly tell that its 2pac. but who knows maby i am mistaken, i wonder how emenem does his method of getting acapellas. if u have any questions or comments please leave. o yea i do know how to make acapellas. with no instruments at all in it.

i was successfull with 2pac hail marry, sounds just like an og.

marcicano wrote:

i think eminem might have done this kind of method, because i can swear in one of 2pac’s songs on loyal to the game u can hear 2pac and emenem mixed together, just that emenems voice is emitated to 2pac’s voice in a way that u can hear only 2pac and can bearly tell that its 2pac. but who knows maby i am mistaken, i wonder how emenem does his method of getting acapellas.

The reason you hear Eminem behind 2Pac is because he stacked it to make it sound like he actually recorded the song with Pac. And Eminem used the best method for getting acapellas, being a rich and successful rapper/producer and having access to the master tapes.

you think pac put in all that work recording so many songs and didn’t make sure that acapellas would be around? I’ve heard him say it himself, he’d grab whatever decent beat the in-house production at Death Row had and just bust on it, all he said he needed was a beat.
Not saying I know any better than you do, but that’s my opinion. And your thoughts on 2Pac-ilizing Em’s voice lead me to believe you may not know as much as you say you do… but that’s just my opinion.

You’re the one getting angry, I was the one who presented my argument in a civilized manner.

And if I don’t know the first thing about DIY acapellas, then ask site admin ‘acapella’ how many I’ve uploaded… and explain the kick-ass tutorial I’m gonna be posting as soon as I’m done with it.

You can’t talk about an “imitation program” and not even know its name, if you’re such an expert. And don’t be so quick to call someone stupid, especially when they have all the material necessary to prove you DEAD WRONG.

Sorry you’re having to be a dick about MY OPINION. Thanks.

ytknows wrote:

hate to double-post, but I just uploaded one of my own DIY acapellas, The Luniz’s “I Got 5 On It”, a hip-hop classic. As soon as acapella adds it to the archive, download it and call me a noob.

Did you make it clear it was a DIY by naming the file to reflect this i.e .._(diy_acapella) ?

ok
listen up. the program is called vocal imitation & recognition ltd. or dub master, u can download a demo trial. thank u very much noob. then u have to have a good enough diy acapella such as hail marry if u ever heard of that, or holla if you hear me(2pac),open it up in soundforge acid, the one where u can stack up on wave files, u might want to sing with the mix not over the mix about 2 or three times, also called doubleing, to bring better vocals frequenies to ur mix, it will take some time if u dont know the song so try a favorite song of urs, or learn the song piece bye piece. when recording u have to play the mix at the same time, u can adjust the recording volume in ur settings and select the recording module (ie. in help) before u start,) once u are done recording ur voice under the diy acapella u should have about 2 or 3 dubed vocals that are urs, and one diy acpella on top, the one on top should have a higher volume then ur vocals wich there volume should be some where in the middle. (ie) keep playing with the volume and listen for improvment. this method hides more of the back round noice and feels in the low volume vocal parts of ur diy acapella. ur gana want to render the file as a project, and save it in wave format, then ur gana want to save both versions seperated by turning down the volume of the vocal’s, diy pella first to zero, then save it in wave, repeat this again doing the same with ur vocals, ( hint go to file then click undo to put back the original volume of one acpella) then run ur own vocals through the vocal imitation & recognition ltd. program, set the diy pella’s gender, ( import the diy pella in the gender in the gender section, set gender. then imitate ur vocals into the diy pella, then compare results, u are gana have to use ur ears, even though it might not sound like ur singer, it does in some way, and use that vocal to match up with the acapella match up the one u renderd, deleating ur first own vocals, and replacing them with the imitated vocalse, once again us volume and listen, there u go, it should sound alot better, if not, what did u expect, magic, lol but for real, this method does work, if u have questions please ask. if u dont believe me dont comment, its a wast of cyberspace.

well usually noob’s have low posts my bad too. it just got me when u said u dont think i know what im talking about, but for real it does work, u just have to use ur ears and brain like i said, give me ur email adress and i can send u both the samples i did the og diy pella and the remastered diy pella. but if not ill have to post my results on this page or some other page that will let me post samples. once again my bad.

hmm, Matt, I’ll work on that one… never thought of trying that song.

ytknows wrote:

hmm, Matt, I’ll work on that one… never thought of trying that song.

Thanks dude, its not an easy one btw, its just everyone was doing rap pellas i thought id give you all a challenge

if you manage a decent extraction, upload it + tell me here

TiMG wrote:

[quote quote="Matt2k":3u6dppth]The noise reduction method works, i tried it for green days basket case, but could only get the opening verse extracted and it was extracted WELL but when the guitars come in, i cant get rid of those, and i want this pella bad, so if anyone can do this for me id be eternally greatful!

you could try doing a centre extraction (pan/expand) and then looping the instrumetnal bit underneath the vocals and using knockout? might work[/quote:3u6dppth]

Ill give that a go, might work never really got the hang of knockout though