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September 30, 2005 at 10:42 am #579172
DJ_RazzParticipantCheers fella all that a good idea, sure saves using a metranome lol
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2005 at 6:21 am #579553
marcicanoParticipantcan some body tell me how to remix an acapella with ejay. the tempo of ejay beats 90 and the acapellas bmp is 157
how do i match the beat with the acapella
please help. can some one give me a mathmatical formula for the tow bmps matching together. please help me.AdSense 336x280December 29, 2005 at 4:45 pm #582439
acheadKeymastermany thanks for this tutorial. it helps me a lot. great job
AdSense 336x280January 18, 2006 at 11:53 pm #583347
NVSParticipant[quote quote="crankhouse":24rp6qf2]Is it even possible to count or even have a BPM, with out the Beat? Hince the BPM label? I have the Mix meister software, and it will give you a reading and a value for a straightacapella, but then I noticed MAJOR differences from the acapella value, vs the original beat included version of the same song? So much so that is has me to the point now that I do NOT even trust the counter program, although it seems to function so seemlessly! Its a shame to, cuz it seems liek ti could be such a resourcful program??? Let me know what Y’all know on dis issue? I have been told both:That a BPM does not exist without the Beat, and I have also been told dat ACID or some program will read straight acapellas? But after my experience I wonder if it will calculate a accurate value? Or if it merely calculates a value relative to what it thinks is the Beat(s)???
In other words, what is the legitamacy of a Acapellas calculated BPM, with No instrumental behind it for a Beat reference????
LA[/quote:24rp6qf2]
You can also use Fruity Loops if you have it. It’ll give you an accurate BPM of an acapella. Well it does for me anyways. Load your mp3 into the bottom playlist thing, and click the arrow that’s pointing down and select ‘Detect Tempo’ it’ll find it and then ask if you want to set your song to that tempo. You can also ‘Fit to Tempo’ if you need it to fit a certain song.
AdSense 336x280January 20, 2006 at 3:53 am #583425
Devo711ParticipantAha! Thanks, I’ve been looking for some help with this. I think this tutorial finally answered my questions.
AdSense 336x280January 22, 2006 at 1:58 pm #583492
VazParticipantlearning some good things here thanks for putting this up juno!
AdSense 336x280February 19, 2006 at 8:43 am #585351
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AdSense 336x280March 22, 2006 at 11:27 pm #587128
shivarParticipantThis thread is wicked. Dont suppose any1 can help me, im tryin to convert an acapella into a fast bpm then normal. Can i do this acuratly in soundforge, or is there something that can in a way, change the bpm ( il do the pitch later ) with a click?
AdSense 336x280April 30, 2006 at 5:42 am #589013
lewelschParticipantHere is 11 very cool javascript sample calculators to help us to deal with samples, time-stretching, pitch-shifting, tempo, delays, sampling rates, sample lengths, bpm, notes… [avecVersion Française]
http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php
Enjoy
LeWelschAdSense 336x280July 17, 2006 at 10:52 am #593483
FruitBombParticipantGreat info,i’ll be tryin some of these out for sure.I agree that sometimes its better to let your ears suss it out,but then sometimes you need a little help from technology.Some things are easily figured out in your sequencer(drop your track over a looped drum sequence and alter the bpm till it fits)or a beatslicer like recycle.Take the track that you want to determine the bpm of, isolate a really tight 2,4 or 8 bar loop(tis can take a bit of tweaking) and save as a seperate file.Open this in recycle,click "no" when asked if you want recycle to find the first slice,and then click the slice button on the transport bar(circle-thing with green"play"arrow inside).You’ll be asked to enter a bar amount.Do this,hit enter and there you go!BPM based on bar length.I do this all the time and except for erratically tempo’d tracks it works really well.
AdSense 336x280August 13, 2006 at 10:01 pm #595992
TuckieParticipantNice tut i just made a track using 50 cent vocals "Wanksta" i worked out the tempo by clicking my thumb and laying some hi hats down.
I made the track at 83 bpm but i just done a google search on it and it said 81 bpm not bad eyAdSense 336x280October 4, 2006 at 12:58 pm #599980
pocket bangerParticipantone thought not so much about beat matching, but matching the keys between, say an acapella and a whatever your layering it onto.
Lets say you’ve got all the bits working together nicely in time, but your acapella is out of key… maybe heaps or just enough to be a little jarring. I’m finding that often when tranposing a sample (acapella) between keys the process tends to stuff up the the thing your transposing. Either the sound is altered, or the key isn’t quite true or one part of the loop is kind of ‘forced’, trying to deal with the time stretching, etc.
Anyone got any hints?
Apart from hunting for different loops that ‘work’ without requiring stretching, or changing the tempo by using something like an external cd player which has an inbuilt pitch controller, for instance, then using that as your bpm for mixing, does anyone have any advice?great site, by the way…
AdSense 336x280October 12, 2006 at 9:04 pm #600635
DreamscapeParticipantVery useful guide
thanks
AdSense 336x280October 29, 2006 at 9:55 am #601662
LuviuzParticipantthx! Is there any bpm utility for mac?
AdSense 336x280November 6, 2006 at 6:28 pm #602404
deserteagle232ParticipantNice tut, thanks!
AdSense 336x280November 6, 2006 at 8:05 pm #602451
Grim_MeNaCeParticipantnice tutorial I tend to use bpm analyzer alot!
AdSense 336x280November 19, 2006 at 3:05 pm #603538
champ85Participantthank you very much for this!
AdSense 336x280December 3, 2006 at 8:54 pm #604674
diizyParticipantbeautiful guide! i like this!
AdSense 336x280December 4, 2006 at 10:23 am #604721
BognorBootleggersParticipantI find the best way the find the tempo of any track is to take the song into an audio editor such as wave lab then find a loop wheather that be 4bar 2bar 8bar or what ever, then count the number of beats and divide by the running time of the loop. Times that answer by 60 and you should have your bpm. The advantage of using an audio editor is you can zoom in to get pin point accuracy in your loop.
So the formula is:
(number of beats/running time in seconds)*60
Example
(4 beats/2 seconds)*60 = 120bpm
AdSense 336x280December 12, 2006 at 4:14 pm #605777
DJ SilverlineParticipantTry sony acid, that works very fast!
AdSense 336x280December 14, 2006 at 1:50 am #606108
desktopParticipantI have one question. Does anybody know like how someone can have a slow song match up to like a very fast beat like 130 or so. Like the we belong together remixes, they don’t sound like there any faster. Btw thanks for all the great infomation
AdSense 336x280December 16, 2006 at 10:15 pm #606566
psquared86Participantthis is what i’ve been looking for
AdSense 336x280December 17, 2006 at 10:00 am #606646
BognorBootleggersParticipantdesktop wrote:I have one question. Does anybody know like how someone can have a slow song match up to like a very fast beat like 130 or so. Like the we belong together remixes, they don’t sound like there any faster. Btw thanks for all the great infomationYeah work with half or double tempos (however you look at it) so for example at 130bpm you might match a track thats 65bpm.
AdSense 336x280December 19, 2006 at 9:27 am #606959
dreierParticipantyeah
AdSense 336x280December 20, 2006 at 2:11 pm #607146
lancastermusicParticipanttanks for this… I’ve already made a remix but I didn’t know how to find the right bpm – so i had to trust on my feeling into rhythm. this "new" way is better.
AdSense 336x280December 25, 2006 at 9:57 pm #607910
pulsar6145ParticipantWoauaouwww, relly a good job.
I read this tuto with a big interest .
Big thanx
AdSense 336x280December 26, 2006 at 7:04 am #607948
vinnie_sopranoParticipanthmm im still unsure whAT BPM means
AdSense 336x280December 26, 2006 at 10:05 am #607956
lancastermusicParticipantvinnie_soprano wrote:hmm im still unsure whAT BPM meansBeats per minute
AdSense 336x280December 27, 2006 at 7:14 pm #608152
desktopParticipantBognorBootleggers wrote:[quote quote="desktop":8xgtj8vl]I have one question. Does anybody know like how someone can have a slow song match up to like a very fast beat like 130 or so. Like the we belong together remixes, they don’t sound like there any faster. Btw thanks for all the great infomationYeah work with half or double tempos (however you look at it) so for example at 130bpm you might match a track thats 65bpm.[/quote:8xgtj8vl]
Thank you so much for letting me know.
AdSense 336x280December 30, 2006 at 10:01 pm #608448
anisinaParticipant[quote quote="kukumon70":1igvhae2]OK, so I made a wicked track around 85 bpm. I have about 10 different pella that are between 80 to 90 bpm. I’ve never remixed a pella over a track, so what’s the easiest way to get started? I am using Reason 3.0 and Wavelab. Thanks,
Wundahbread[/quote:1igvhae2]
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