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September 22, 2008 at 3:46 am #547271
vojnikParticipantWell as the topic states i am interested what is the minimum or optimum quality of acapella for professional DJing? The reason i ask is i am using vinyls for some time now and i am considering to buy Serato since its damn hard to find old school hip hop singles nowadays ( and not second hand). So if i want to mix in a digital acapella using serato on top of my 12" instrumental what bitrate quality you think is good enough ( life performance in a club / disco) ?
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2008 at 3:46 am #656852
vojnikParticipantWell as the topic states i am interested what is the minimum or optimum quality of acapella for professional DJing? The reason i ask is i am using vinyls for some time now and i am considering to buy Serato since its damn hard to find old school hip hop singles nowadays ( and not second hand). So if i want to mix in a digital acapella using serato on top of my 12" instrumental what bitrate quality you think is good enough ( life performance in a club / disco) ?
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2008 at 3:08 pm #656870
ChunkyEatsMyDinnerParticipantI promise you, although many people will tell you go 320kbps, I have absolutely no problems with 128.
Anything Lame encoded at 128 would need a trained set of ears and a very good hifi system to tell the difference between it and 320.
Your gonna be playing on a PA system to drunk people!
For piece of mind encode everything at 192kbps. Anything more is just at the cost of hard drive space.AdSense 336x280September 22, 2008 at 5:03 pm #656878
vojnikParticipant[quote quote="Chunkycoldmedina":1bweo1uc]I promise you, although many people will tell you go 320kbps, I have absolutely no problems with 128.
Anything Lame encoded at 128 would need a trained set of ears and a very good hifi system to tell the difference between it and 320.
Your gonna be playing on a PA system to drunk people!
For piece of mind encode everything at 192kbps. Anything more is just at the cost of hard drive space.[/quote:1bweo1uc]thanks
AdSense 336x280September 22, 2008 at 6:04 pm #656880
djshadesukParticipant[quote quote="Chunkycoldmedina":odh9trsf]I promise you, although many people will tell you go 320kbps, I have absolutely no problems with 128.
Anything Lame encoded at 128 would need a trained set of ears and a very good hifi system to tell the difference between it and 320.
Your gonna be playing on a PA system to drunk people!
For piece of mind encode everything at 192kbps. Anything more is just at the cost of hard drive space.[/quote:odh9trsf]Finally someone with a little sense! I’m always extolling the virtues of the OGG Vorbis format and its great compression/quality/size ratios but some people are like "Whats the point with todays MASSIVE hard drives". I come from an era of computing where 2Mb system RAM was huge and a 120Mb HD was monsterous (and would set you back £500!!). As you can imagine efficient use of space was always something to be considered and that line of thinking has stuck with me. I just see it as a huge waste to simply fill up a hard drive with massive files simply because you can, especially if theres no real, appreciable benefits.
AdSense 336x280September 23, 2008 at 9:13 am #656895
otgParticipantI concur, when I was using Final Scratch, I encoded everything at 192… no-one knew the difference, and that was on a number of different sound-systems, from tiny bars to massive 10k club systems.
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2008 at 7:00 pm #657915
weeddiggerParticipant+ 1 for it almost doesn’t matter. As long as the tunes sound straight to you, proabably no one is going to be able to tell you’re using .mp3’s at whatever rate, or .wavs…
I sometimes don’t even hear the difference between vinyl and digital. If you’re playing good tunes, that’s all that matters.
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2008 at 7:14 pm #657916
JuggernautParticipantwell…heaven forbid i’m part of your audience.
Should you play anything below 192 my ears will probably pick up on it (if the sound system is of decent spec)…..especially if it’s at 128kbps…it is (for want of a better word) gash.
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2008 at 8:39 pm #657924
weeddiggerParticipant[quote quote="Juggernaut":2808b24b]well…heaven forbid i’m part of your audience.
Should you play anything below 192 my ears will probably pick up on it (if the sound system is of decent spec)…..especially if it’s at 128kbps…it is (for want of a better word) gash.[/quote:2808b24b]
Ha!
Guy, if you were in my audience, you’d be in Heaven…
AdSense 336x280October 9, 2008 at 9:02 pm #657925
JuggernautParticipantFirstly, Girl
Secondly, Sound Engineer.
Thirdly, Geek.
Fourthly, DJ
Fifthly, Unlikely.
AdSense 336x280October 12, 2008 at 2:16 am #658103
weeddiggerParticipantNo entiendo nada que dices…
AdSense 336x280October 21, 2008 at 8:19 am #658629
ChunkyEatsMyDinnerParticipantweeddigger wrote:No entiendo nada que dices…Is that supposed to be ironic?
AdSense 336x280October 28, 2008 at 4:02 pm #659027
weeddiggerParticipantJust a chunk of WTF?!?!?
Nothing more, nothing less…
But after reading more into the Juggs, I think I might understand a bit more…
But still…
Que?!
AdSense 336x280December 15, 2008 at 5:14 am #660803
DaveTParticipantTo be honest anything is fine for just an acapella – even a grimey 96k.. But anybody who tells you that nobody hears the difference between a 192k and 320k when playing a track is talking crap. The amount of frequencies removed by a 192k conversion might not make a lot of difference on your ipod but on a big club system the mid’s are nasty.
Don’t drop below 256 for club play, try to keep at 320 if you can.
AdSense 336x280December 18, 2008 at 6:57 pm #660982
arjunParticipantgo to no extreme…take the middle path…128 should keep you happy … peace
AdSense 336x280December 20, 2008 at 8:32 am #661077
docshockerParticipantAgreed — 128 should be fine, esp for just the acapella. Worse bitrates tend to weaken the low end a bit, which will show more in your instrumentals.
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Thank you!.AdSense 336x280May 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm #692521
MAXMILLIONAIREParticipant320 is the way to go , but often on serato whitelabel sites you’ll find alot of stuff well under 128, but try and use anything 192 and over and you’ll get great results.
AdSense 336x280June 21, 2012 at 9:19 am #693351
PrinceJonasParticipantdont worry too much about the quality since you’ll be playing live….
AdSense 336x280September 15, 2013 at 7:00 pm #700279
Thedemented1ParticipantIronically, for most people lossless files actually sound muddier than a 320 mp3 or even a 192 mp3. There was a blind trial hosted in the Ableton forums.
AdSense 336x280December 20, 2013 at 3:12 am #701248
greatkParticipant320kbps is recommended, you cant really hear a difference between that and lossless at hojme but on a club system you start to here it a bit it’s said.
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