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September 18, 2006 at 11:43 pm #535448
WarlordParticipantHey,
Basically I think a lot of people seem to have a bit of a misconception about phase cancellation. Whilst it’s not possible to perfectly cancel out instrumental parts in a vocal mix if you don’t have exactly the same mix of the instrumental itself using phase cancellation, it’s still possible to achieve some cancellation.
So basically here’s what I do:
– Find an instrumental section of a vocal mix where everything is the same apart from there not being any vocals over the top.
– Invert the phase of it.
– Copy it and mix paste it into a part where the vocal line is as well as the same instrumental section.
– Use Noise Reductiion to clean up what’s leftThis dodgy phase cancellation will usually cancel out the low-mid frequencies (to an extent), leaving the mid-high. The success rate of this is very dependant on how similar the instrumental sections are (i.e. the 1 with the vocal and the 1 without that u inverted the phase of).
I then use the Noise Reduction feature in CoolEdit to clean up the mid-high frequencies, the tutorial of which you can find at:
http://www.acapellas4u.co.uk/topic27883.html
However, you do not need to be extracting the centre mono to achieve a satisfactory result after using the above phase cancellation method. You can get a perfectly good result with Noise Reduction whilst retaining the full stereo spectrum on the vocal (something which is a rarity in DIY acapella production?).
Feedback on this method is appreciated. It worked very well for a song I just did where I had the full instrumental, but the mix of the instrumental wasn’t the exact same as the mix with the vocal line (a very annoying problem).
AdSense 336x280September 18, 2006 at 11:43 pm #598703
WarlordParticipantHey,
Basically I think a lot of people seem to have a bit of a misconception about phase cancellation. Whilst it’s not possible to perfectly cancel out instrumental parts in a vocal mix if you don’t have exactly the same mix of the instrumental itself using phase cancellation, it’s still possible to achieve some cancellation.
So basically here’s what I do:
– Find an instrumental section of a vocal mix where everything is the same apart from there not being any vocals over the top.
– Invert the phase of it.
– Copy it and mix paste it into a part where the vocal line is as well as the same instrumental section.
– Use Noise Reductiion to clean up what’s leftThis dodgy phase cancellation will usually cancel out the low-mid frequencies (to an extent), leaving the mid-high. The success rate of this is very dependant on how similar the instrumental sections are (i.e. the 1 with the vocal and the 1 without that u inverted the phase of).
I then use the Noise Reduction feature in CoolEdit to clean up the mid-high frequencies, the tutorial of which you can find at:
http://www.acapellas4u.co.uk/topic27883.html
However, you do not need to be extracting the centre mono to achieve a satisfactory result after using the above phase cancellation method. You can get a perfectly good result with Noise Reduction whilst retaining the full stereo spectrum on the vocal (something which is a rarity in DIY acapella production?).
Feedback on this method is appreciated. It worked very well for a song I just did where I had the full instrumental, but the mix of the instrumental wasn’t the exact same as the mix with the vocal line (a very annoying problem).
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