Key of acapellas

right, as long as you find someone competent and responsible. thanks.

great idea thats more useful 2 me than the bpm thats easy enough to work out in logic

that would be very verys useful

yes so i can map out the whole of my remix

it would be useful,like bpm,but nevertheless wouldnt matter too much as its what sounds good on the ears,different tones etc can create a totally different feel but still be in tune

Theres a program for mac called "beatunes" for helping you find keys and bpms….its not perfect but it saves time.

danm77 wrote:

it would be useful,like bpm,but nevertheless wouldnt matter too much as its what sounds good on the ears,different tones etc can create a totally different feel but still be in tune

I disagree, there can only be one ‘right’ way without a vocal sounding out of key. You can’t just choose any old key and use that cos it sounds good to you. It may work in the bedroom situation but not in a club.

faz wrote:

What would you need the key for? As bootleg/mash-up/remix artists, being able to tell what the correct key needs to be is pretty much a foundation skill that we should all have already. I would say if people dont have this basic skill then they will struggle with the whole process.

Have to say I disagree – I have perfect pitch (well, as near as dammit) but still use my own personal key database all the time when doing bootlegs/mixes etc. It saves me so much time when I’m looking for the right acapella to go over a particular backing track.

And also I’ve been on the bootleg scene for seven years now and there are loads of people who started out making stuff that’s wildly out of key (and out of time) but have improved over the years… it is possible to train your ears to hear key clashes etc. This database will help them.

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes !@!!!!!!!

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I disagree, there can only be one ‘right’ way without a vocal sounding out of key. You can’t just choose any old key and use that cos it sounds good to you. It may work in the bedroom situation but not in a club.</div></blockquote>

ha – I have it the other way round! Stuff that works in clubs can sound horribly out of key in the bedroom – for example I did a Guns ‘n’ Roses/Whitney Houston bootleg in 2003 which had pretty bad feedback on GYBO, but A+D still play it at Bootie to this day!

I call it the "booze-tinted speakers" effect ;)[/quote:1no49bth]

IMO knowing "The Key" can sometimes hinder creativity. All keys are relative, for example G and E minor have all the same notes. The key you perceive is dependent upon which notes are stressed. Either key would be tonally correct, and there are five other modes with identical notes to those two only stressing different harmonic patterns. Further, in many cases a melody might not use all the notes in a particular key. The omission of a single note would allow you to change key say from Bflat to Eflat for example and still have complete consonance.
For the sake of creativity I think it’s best to rely on your ears. Do what you think sounds good.
If Key labeling helps some then go for it but I’ll be ignoring it.

yeah!!! It would be of great help guys… please make it happen… Thanx!!!

chihuahuaconda wrote:

better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

^this!

This would definitely be a big help. When I start looking for acapellas (mashups/etc.) it’s not always with a specific song in mind. So it’d be great if I could look around and find an acapella in a key to match the song I’m using, to "stumble upon" a good match, if you will. Though I understand it would definitely be a hassle – so only if it’s feasible!

does anyone know if those programs like platinum notes / mixed in key are good for accapellas?

Would be amazing!!