Fruityloops 4

a producer is only as good as his samples!

fruity is a great sequencer though!

u can adjust the volume of indivual notes very easily in the piano roll mode.

u can assign filters to indivual notes and all sorts of other effects extremely simply.

*edit just re-read what u wrote and i see what your saying, but copying to a new line only takes a matter of seconds and is exactly like making a ghost copy like you would in any other program

fruity loops i think is best if used to make skeleton beats real fast and maybe import it to cubase or reason to expand on your initial idea. the hardest thing about fruity loops is building up a good sample library so you dont have to use the instruments it came with.

most “dirty south” sounds rely on synths (david banner, lil jon, mannie fresh) i believe with crazy snares or hi hats

theres a lot of soul sample type beats out (kanye, heatmakers)

the west has a funk twist to it but that sound seems to be fading out

these may be off but thats how i like to think of them

yeah that sequencing thing is a pain. You can set types of automation in the piano roll but not on the playlist. I’ve been reading up lately trying to find some way around this in FL. Dont know of a free sequencer other than trial versions of course.

You can always try some shareware/freeware site to see if they have any free ones. http://www.sharewaremusicmachine.com

first, of course make sure theres no delay or reverb effects on the channel. Second, shorten the release of the sample or vst/synth so it doesn’t carry so long (do that where you edit the clip when you click on the channel on the tab with the envelope line. You can ever gate some things to get them to stop after a certain period.

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[quote quote="Shplarz":1oju98x1]how can i shorten the release of the synth.
i know how to do that in the fl channel, but there’s no actual sample for the synth, that’s why it’s a generator … how would i gate the release?[/quote:1oju98x1]

See if there’s an envelope anywhere on the synth screen. If there’s no release slider or knob there, that’s no good. Or find out how presets are made for the synth given, and crack the problem. “One can never know too much” .

Another way is to play with the “Time” knobs in the channel properties.
There are 2 knobs – gate & offset ,and the full portamento button. Experiment with these and you’ll get it. This principe doesn’t always work. Sitrys is evading it quite well, but there are plugs that are quite well controlable by this.

The third and the final way i know of, and the most effective, is automation. Sorry dude, but this is the longest possible way, requires a lot of work but gives great results.
If you got FL v5, it shouldn’t be too hard, the amaizing automation clips can work simple melodies out quite eassily. Just a lot of drawing, that’s all.
For more wicked melos, make a volume envelope with an automation clip, gate it as much as you wanna this way, then you need to sample out a note, and then load into a sampler or use it with the granulazer plug…
This does well, but takes the liberty of using the velocity feature in the piano roll in it’s full glory. If the synth has the ability to make multiple parametre connections to a velocity control, you can say good bye to it.
Then again, you can sample out a note with different release times (using automation ofcourse), and use them all… IE. make a preset in the FPC plugin [which has a nice velocity to sample feature (if i’m expressing right)] , and load different samples you made for different velocities. Lack of this solution is that you must sample out each note you wanna use 4 times…
Looks bad, yeah? I haven’t figured the right solution yet, and can’t see one coming…
If anone figured this one out, could you share it?

hope this helps. greetz
w

p.s. will i ever write a simple, short, to the point post…

[quote quote="Shplarz":1yxhmhb8]appareciate the replies both.
juno, when i’m using slayer, and opened the channel settings like u suggested, there are no envelope lines… the plugin window itself open. do u know which setting to adjust to reduce the release?
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OK I got you now – Slayer is a little different.
When you load it into a channel the Plugin box pops up with a guitar in the window, right? Under the strings there should be a bunch of knobs – over to the right you should see a few “Vel” knobs and a “Damp” knob. You can play around with the two Velocity knobs but the main thing that will cut out all that feedback is turning that Damp knob almost all the way up (to the right). This will probably change the sound of the instrument a little so you’re gonna have to tweak some other stuff to get the right sound. That should do it for ya