dj’s and samples

WHAT ARE you talking about???
[quote:1yekrchr]2. Producer DJ’s: make some music with the pc at home[/quote:1yekrchr]
Call yourself a Dj when you only make music with your pc ?????

[quote:1yekrchr]Cause samples and acapella’s is the stuff that makes a great DJ.[/quote:1yekrchr]

SKILLs make a great Dj.

might change point 2 with "Scratch-Dj or Turntablist: don’t just simple play and mix records or call themself Djs because they mix acappelas and instrumentals with their Pc, but make music with their tables+mixer".

Basicly there are 3 kinds: good, bad, fake

example of a good: http://youtube.com/watch?v=L9_BvFSt4DA

example of a bad: just search youtube.

example of a fake: computer "djs".

Yeah producer is the right word.

And i know it’s not simple to mix on a computer. Tried it Definetly nothing you can do without playing around and learning. But no comparsion to the effort it takes to become a good scratch-dj, even mix-dj.

Actually i have no clue what "typical hardstyle en jumpstyle" is , but i think you might take a look at the official refills on propellerheads site.

[quote quote="babooo":2jgcba6v]:shock: WHAT ARE you talking about???
[quote:2jgcba6v]2. Producer DJ’s: make some music with the pc at home[/quote:2jgcba6v]
Call yourself a Dj when you only make music with your pc ?????

[quote:2jgcba6v]Cause samples and acapella’s is the stuff that makes a great DJ.[/quote:2jgcba6v]

SKILLs make a great Dj.

might change point 2 with "Scratch-Dj or Turntablist: don’t just simple play and mix records or call themself Djs because they mix acappelas and instrumentals with their Pc, but make music with their tables+mixer".

Basicly there are 3 kinds: good, bad, fake

example of a good: http://youtube.com/watch?v=L9_BvFSt4DA

example of a bad: just search youtube.

example of a fake: computer "djs".[/quote:2jgcba6v]

He produces beats and remixes on his computer so whats the point to laugh bout that?
A Dj is someone who recreates the music that already exists. Like scratching, choppin or just remix a song with acapella and beat.
So i think u r one of those "djs" who sratch the fuck outta the vinyls and call yaself the allmighty dj, dont cha?
Man u gotta see the other things you can do without scratching.
The Dj today does more to the music than simply scratch and know how to use a turntable.

The todays dj’s r producers too. YOu gotta do ya own thing to keep it real.
Almost every producer uses MPC in combination with a pc.
The PC and software has become the biggest point cause there hasnt been such an easy way to cut and arrange samples/songs/music/remixes/… before.

I didnt use any "hardware" for a long time but now i also will buy an AKAI MPC 2500 to get the realest beats and stuff.

Especially ya last three kinds of djs show that u got no respect and really dont have any idea bout what a dj is.
You got problems in real life? Well maybe u shouldnt reflect em on this site or community.
All HE wanted to know is a place for samples.

But dont get me wrong. Dont wanna offend u. Just think it’s bad to see someone askin a question and another one totally makes fun of it. Its just lame. u know?!

@walytje
I get my samples out of other songs but also use VSTs to make the instruments sound like real ones.
A lot of digital samples that r included in the software sound like shit almost every time.
they got that plastic attitude

Like i said u can get samples by cuttin em out of existing songs or u can buy/get em on the internet.
When u got fruity loops u should have a look at samplefusion – as when u logged in to the fl studio homepage u can download for free.

Another great site for VSTi samples is: http://www.kvraudio.com/
U get real stuff there to make the sounds very realistic.

And dont forget -> hell yeah you r producer/dj/whatever u wanna be …
PEACE

I assume you didn’t read my post carefully. I never said that only Djs that scratch are real Djs. Just that producing tracks with your computer isn’t djing + even if you got the dopest acapellas and the best samples, you won’t produce good stuff without skills, and technique – i admit not in the nicest way.

djpuente wrote:

The todays dj’s r producers too. YOu gotta do ya own thing to keep it real.

Just because many of todays Djs produce too, doesn’t mean that a producer is a dj – vice versa. Get a dictionary and look up for the term "Dj".

[quote quote="djpuente":3peskwyk]
All HE wanted to know is a place for samples.[/quote:3peskwyk]
He started his question with a statement. I responded to that. Easy.

djpuente wrote:

You got problems in real life? Well maybe u shouldnt reflect em on this site or community.

DDr. med. univ. phil. you should hold a reading at Harvard. Seems you got great knowledge in terms of "judging someones mental condition by reading 4 sentences written on the net". That’s like i assume you are a mentaly retarded infant, just because you wrote that above.

djpuente wrote:

So i think u r one of those "djs" who sratch the f**k outta the vinyls and call yaself the allmighty dj, dont cha?

Harvard calls again….

Again, yes the part with the laughing smily in my response wasn’t very nice – but yours…….. woooow

Let’s just relax – internet – different taste – different view – different opinion.

Music is music, doesn’t matter how its made, doesn’t matter what someone claims to be. The music has been made & if it sounds good, there’s no problem right?

This post isn’t about what a DJ is. It’s about where he can find good samples. Av got an email from a friend of mine which has about 12 links to sample sites. Al see if a can dig it out & al post them up when a get home. That’s about as much help a can be. If you have a Torrent Client (i.e. BitTorrent, Bit Lord or uTorrent) you might be able to download a whole bunch of Sample Packs from http://www.mininova.com or another Torrent Hosting site. Just do a Google search to find them.

Peace

*handshake*

Greetings to Hamburg

Not trying to rekindle flames but …

To me a DJ is an expert in listening to music. There is too much music out there. Seriously. I will never be able to listen to and appreciate all of it. So I listen to what DJ’s have sorted out, like all the people at a party. So to be a DJ, you don’t need scratching skills (performance), or computer skills (production). Just love for music and confidence in what you add to your playlist. So you can answer the question: "What is hardstyle?" with examples, rather than opinions.

Now I know you all shook on it to let it rest, and I respect that, but I had to share my POV. Thanks for reading…

Walytje,

Even stealing is a form of work. But seriously, if you want something and can’t pay for it, then you have to work for it. For VST’s, you have to dig deeper into the net community. Alot of technical forums dedicated to the type of software you use have links to beta VST’s and homemade VST’s, etc. you just have to get involved and say you’re willing to try out the software. For samples, you have to narrow it down to categories, ie. drum samples, voice samples, instrument samples, loops, etc. and what I found is that if you have something in mind you’ll find more…

Over the past 14 years, I’ve been collecting sounds that I ripped from mod files, movies, cds, tapes, radio, records, and the internet. All I’m saying is that it takes time and patience.

There’s a language to describing sound and once you learn it, you’ll be able to find anything… good luck!

PS. you are always allowed to recommend things for this place, but please do so in the appropriate section … thanks!

[quote quote="davefj":19zh4vqq]What would you call someone (DJ?) that uses Traktor or AbletonLive to mix there set.
Ultimately they are just pressing play and letting the computer sort out the mix/bpm etc but they are also entertaining a club full of people.[/quote:19zh4vqq]
As I see it with tools like Ableton is that it has shifted the focus from beatmixing to being more creative with the mix. Since you don’t have to spend the same amount of time on just beatmixing you can use the world of possibilities that you have with the program to create a more craetive and interesting mix.
It’s a different kind of DJing but it’s still DJing in my opinion, difference is that it has come closer to producing.

The things you an do live with Ableton Live could probably only be dreamt about some years ago when there was only Vinyl.

Ableton doesn’t just sort shit for you, either. There’s an art to getting everything ready to play. You can control anything/everything, so it’s all in the choices you make.

I feel like a good DJ is someone who knows what to play, when to play it, and who to play it for. Really simple as that.

I don’t feel like what equipment you’re using plays such a big role in what you are doing. As much as what you are doing with it.

I am as big a vinyl fan as the next man, but at the same time, I do all of my remixes on my Mac in Reason. Everything is simply a tool IMO, and to short yourself of tools that could make you better at what you do, doesn’t make much sense to me.

cool

I am a musician, a former rave dj, and a producer. From experience I have to say that Val is right about what a dj is. A producer can most simply be defined as someone who creates original music. A dj utilizes original music to produce original "mixes" but does not produce original "musical pieces" per se. Even a remix can be considered original, as usually they contain much original material and redefine the entire aesthetic expression of the original piece. Mash-ups, especially if they don’t contain many new augmentations, are borderline. A dj may not be using vinyl or even turntables anymore, but if their end product is essentially the same as what a vinyl turntablist would deliver…then we must call them a dj. And hell yes music made on a computer is real music. I consider my electronic production to be far more significant than my guitar work even though I have been playing for twenty years and have become quite skilled. They are different but just as substantial.