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June 5, 2007 at 4:09 am #624060
texasskoolboiParticipantdude it depends on what you’re gonna do. if you plan on scrtching go with the vynil. the quality is so much better. if you’re really stumped buy the vynil tables and a program ike serato. it is the shiet!!! you’ll love it……..
AdSense 336x280June 5, 2007 at 6:38 am #624066
level 5ParticipantVinyl has a feel like no other, but cds add a new dimension, use both i reckon
AdSense 336x280June 7, 2007 at 9:42 am #624329
diskobiscut2ParticipantMy goodness… argue argue argue. It’s not really a matter of opinion, is it? We all feel what we feel about mp3, .wav and anaolg vinyl and we will probably alwyas feel this way.
Let’s get back to the source of the question: Pros/Cons of both…
Vinyl Pros:
Analog sound, non-compressed, hands-on feel (and sight), original mixing/’scratching format (post reel-to-reel or 4 track). "Opinion" – know your roots. For some, "digging" is part of the DJ adventure. You can also cue quickly by picking up the needle and tracking on the fly.Vinyl Cons:
In time, they do cue burn. You can anti-static and clean, though, fidelity does deteriorate over time. Expensive compared to internet purchased mp3 and .wav, sometimes heavy to carry into gigs. Many tracks are limited to pressings. When they’re sold out, you wait for the next pressing. Waiting for vinyl to be shipped is sometimes a burden. Vibration skips are unavoidable in most cases. Bumping the turntable makes for big boo boo.CD/MP3/WAV pros:
Unlimited supply of new tracks, light weight, immeditately available via download, inexpensive, digital sound quality (for those who enjoy it), most new players have the anti-skip mod. and other effects built-in, errors in playback are very rare. CDJ players rarely fall out of tune and require less maintanance. Plus, you can play your own original works and/or scratch your own samples.CD/MP3/WAV cons:
There is a digital readout of where you are in the track rather than seeing the actual cue point a 12" provides, no hands-on experience other than start/pause/cue. There is a "vinyl" function on most new CDJ’s, however, nothing compares to a real record on a real turntable (I apologize for adding my opinion – just couldn’t find the right words), cd’s also skip – when they do, it’s much more difficult to get back on track by reading a digital display.Digital DJ/Serato/Final Scratch Pros:
Your entire library in one place, if you konw your library, searching for the next track is very simple (if you KNOW what you want to play next), any and all music is playable on timecode cd’s or vinyl and reacts accordingly, lightest of lightweight, ease of mobility for working dj’s, visual cues from wave forms. Non-static playback and quality does not deteriorate.Digital DJ/Serato/Final Scratch Cons:
COMPUTERS CRASH. Mac or Windows, I’ve seen it happen to both and is embarrasing to any DJ. Additinal booth wiring may not be available in some situations. OS compatibitliy, software updates, driver updates, etc. can be a burden to those less-tech-savvy.In closing, club DJ’s/studio DJ’s/Tablists are all very different from eachother. I know very few scratch dj’s who would dare use a CD. Those that do, learned on and prefer 12" and, on rare occasions, use digital formats to promote new products. It’s a matter of personal preference. Try everything and you will find your way. Every DJ has a passion for a certain format, though it is important to learn all of them becasue you never know what setup you’ll be walking into. No matter what format you choose, it is important that you know you are part of a culture and the forward movement of that culture. Don’t just mimic, reinvent. Every DJ format has a list of pros and cons… far more than I listed above. It’s up to you to troubleshoot and plan ahead for your "plan B" if/when danger strikes.
Best of luck finding your way. The journey is well worth it.
AdSense 336x280June 13, 2007 at 1:01 pm #625168
malicious mParticipantthe same question on every music forum is this one
at the end of the day its what your comfortable with and what your budget it
i would say vinyl all day long but i can see why people go for cds as you can just download tracks and they come alot cheaper then £6 for a single vinyl but you cant beat the feeling of the vinyl mate honestly its the best way to djAdSense 336x280July 30, 2007 at 9:11 am #630065
teknoboy420ParticipantI think it’s hilarious how everybody is trying to get another cd VS vinyl topic going. But anyway I want to thank everyone who viewed and/or replied to this post and kept it alive for so long. There were alot of interesting responses and after reading everybodies opinions I think I’m going to go with CDJ’s
AdSense 336x280August 1, 2007 at 1:21 pm #630240
acheadKeymasterCD’s are good, But I still reckon your not a true DJ unless you can spin vinyl
AdSense 336x280August 2, 2007 at 3:58 am #630292
dec07Participantthe way technology is going vinyl is starting to fade its way out due to the instant availabiliy of music online and mp3 format, i was in the same situation and saved a bit of cash and got 2 cdj 100mk3’s and havn’t looked back since. cost more initially but you save a whole lot more in the end.
AdSense 336x280August 2, 2007 at 7:57 am #630301
timothyParticipantHmmm I’m surprised nobodies said this but the best sets I’ve heard in ages have all been produced with Ableton Live. So I guess I’m with the CD/beatport crowd.
And Vinyl can be dangerous
Have you ever had one slice a finger, all that blood looks kind of cool with the strobe light on.AdSense 336x280August 16, 2007 at 2:41 pm #631599
djrichiemParticipantOwell im dj in portugal and i use both cdjs and vynil cdjs are really gd have loadz of effects loops etc… bt as dj ever1 knows that ppl enjoy more when u play a vynil. Ppl stay more impressed when they see 2 vynils spinning @ same time. so vynils without doubt are my favourites
AdSense 336x280August 19, 2007 at 3:05 pm #631894
ASMAParticipantthe future is CD’s, but now vinyl is the rulezzz!!
AdSense 336x280August 23, 2007 at 12:15 pm #632265
jay_hParticipantvinyl is definatly best for learning on as you get a feel for the record so can understand slowing the record down and speeding it up better but now i prefer cdj’s with out a doubt. cd’s r lighter to carry around clubs a lot faster for mixing as u dont have to keep finding the cue point like on a record and give a better sound.
AdSense 336x280September 12, 2007 at 4:18 am #633512
DJ MEZOParticipantVinyl 4 ever, but to have cdj is good for those songs that are dificult to obtain or they still haven’t on sale
AdSense 336x280September 15, 2007 at 3:25 pm #633711
charley bucketParticipanti love playin vinyl but its just not pratical ne more.. when i was buyin house music ur talkin ne where btwn 9 and 12 bucks for an import and would be lucky if u got more then 2 cuts on the wax.. but if ur talkin about quality in sound.. vinyl sounds better without a question
AdSense 336x280September 24, 2007 at 12:05 am #634146
sarit_nParticipantVinyl sounds like music is alive. But CDJ give u more flexibility for sure.
AdSense 336x280September 29, 2007 at 12:04 am #634429
Nev HParticipantvinyl
AdSense 336x280October 1, 2007 at 1:12 pm #634538
JuggernautParticipanttwo tracks. (imo)
And actually you can get up to 6. 3 tracks on each side, depends on the length though and i’m basing that on house tracks mainly, so hip-hop tends to be shorter (around 3 mins).
Sonically though, the best place to have a track based is at the outer area as opposed to near the middle.
just some random FYI there
AdSense 336x280October 17, 2007 at 5:38 am #635335
SchemaParticipantI’m not even going to read other people’s replies and just go ahead and say VINYL VINYL VINYL. I’ve been using vinyl since I started and I absolutely can’t stand the FEEL of CD’s.
This is probably the strongest point of my argument, it’s about how certain mediums feel when you play them. If you want convenience and lower cost of digital tracks then do yourself a favour and still invest in analog turntables and buy a DVS system, you get CLOSE to that same vinyl feel, with the simplicity and easy of digital.
AdSense 336x280November 9, 2007 at 4:03 am #636823
WildAceParticipantCD… altho i love the equip that hooks up to ur comp & u drag & drop mp3s while mixing thru actual cd/vinyl like decks
AdSense 336x280November 11, 2007 at 12:50 pm #636925
f9ParticipantHas to be VINYL it really is like an investment buyin vinyl…especially real old vinyl.. but if i was just starting out i would use cd & mp3..Easy to take to gigs and if ur playin abroad it wont get lost or mislaid by airport staff..
AdSense 336x280November 11, 2007 at 1:27 pm #636930
BrewmachineParticipantVinyl everytime! cd doesn’t have the sound or the feel – there seems to be something lacking in digital dj’ing…. correct me if im wrong but ive never heard of a cd junkie, but those slabs of wax <daydreams> mmm…. i need to go record shoppin
AdSense 336x280December 1, 2007 at 10:41 pm #638209
wheresmyhelmetParticipantI’ve been DJing for about 12 years. When I started, there was no such thing as CD players with pitch control. Therefore, my biased opinion is that vinyl is the only way to truly experience the true feeling of being a DJ. There’s nothing like being able to almost literally feel the music on your fingertips; being able to cue up a scratch without even having your headphones on your ears. I am and always will be a vinyl purist.
AdSense 336x280December 2, 2007 at 11:11 pm #638282
SchemaParticipantAnother thing: Vinyl has resale value. If you’re an MP3 DJ, and you buy a tune you like on MP3 but later you don’t like it anymore… well you can’t really sell the MP3 off again…
With vinyl if you don’t like the track anymore you can sell the vinyl to someone else.
AdSense 336x280December 5, 2007 at 11:53 pm #638573
Chris EssParticipantexactly schema, it would be a real shame if vinyl faded out completely,
long live vinyl
AdSense 336x280December 8, 2007 at 4:10 pm #638818
Robert EvansParticipantI play both vinyl and cds…
I try to play as much vinyl as possible though… I usually only use cdjs for when i want to play exclusive unreleased tracks. If i have a track on vinyl and cd i will play the vinyl.
AdSense 336x280December 12, 2007 at 5:15 pm #639279
steve millsParticipantI use both but i feel the way things are going cd is ya best option. its cheaper easyer and everywhere uses them. also with the technology out there at mo you can do everything on cd’s than you can do on vinyl anyway.
AdSense 336x280December 12, 2007 at 8:29 pm #639300
Robert EvansParticipantVinyl is more hands on though and thats what i like… only using cdjs during a set in a club is to easy!!!
AdSense 336x280December 22, 2007 at 7:33 pm #639907
DJ Bobby VParticipant[quote quote="flexmartin":j2qy2wem]If yer just starting out and $$’s are a concern go for the convenience and lower cost of CD, you may want a cheapo turney for some Vinyl only releases [edit: for recording to PC then CD] but you’ll prolly use it less & less in the future.
There will always be those who say that Vinyl will always rule and nothing beats the feel of it, or the sound of vinyl can’t be replaced, and I do understand that feeling, but it may be a misplaced emotional attachment to the media. I mean, we all really love music and want to feel it and touch it in a very real sense, Vinyl allows us to feel that we’re doing that but at the end of the day it’s just the media. Get over the superficial attachment to the recording media and learn how to get closer to -and connect with -the music. One way to achieve this is to learn just a little bit of music theory.[/quote:j2qy2wem]I agree!!Well said.AdSense 336x280December 23, 2007 at 2:53 pm #639958
jefpeaceParticipantNot being a dj I can only give the perspective of a musician …
I miss the warmth of sound that can only be heard when listening to vinyl or tape. I’m a diehard defender of analog who admits digital has its benefits, but makes that admission grudgingly.
However, I’m also fully aware that I’m in the minority. Most folks nowdays (and I’m no exception) own and use mp3 players frequently so the warmth of analog is obviously a dessert, not the main course, appetizer or even snack.
AdSense 336x280December 23, 2007 at 5:31 pm #639969
DJ Bobby VParticipantYou have to change with the times.
Imagine if there was a guy out there still stuck on VictrolasAdSense 336x280January 22, 2008 at 4:15 am #641697
DoverParticipanttombee wrote:vinyl all the way – especially if you’re into technoexactly.
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