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May 5, 2008 at 9:24 pm #649129
cosmicjiveParticipantI DJ completely with Live now, as most of the people in the glitch-hop genre do. I use mainly a Trigger Finger to control my mixes and I set up my sets with 4 audio tracks I use as my main "turntables". These I use to play full tracks. I then have 2 other audio tracks for juggling which I throw samples into, drums, acapellas etc. So it’s like having 6 turntables, sometimes I get to the point where I’m playing 4 different songs all at the same time (this requires a lot of knoweledge of your tracks, what key they are playing in, when certain tracks hit. But with a lot of practice you can get so you have so much damn sound pumping from the PA system that sometimes dancers will drop their jaws as they reach overdose levels of sound.
AdSense 336x280May 13, 2008 at 11:05 am #649434
acheadKeymastertee947 wrote:This is an age-old discussion that gets beaten to death on various boards. i agree, someone who plays full, unedited versions of standard tracks and mixes A>B with no added benefit using Live is cheating if they want to call themselves a proper dj…a.I agree with this.
AdSense 336x280May 18, 2008 at 6:31 pm #649761
MR.NICEGUYParticipantI use ableton for production and run programs like massive and Reason as slaves to it. Hopefully one day I can afford a Mac and get logic to master everything but for now this does the trick.
AdSense 336x280May 30, 2008 at 10:00 pm #650406
MR.NICEGUYParticipantAbleton/Reason because I’m on PC
AdSense 336x280September 28, 2008 at 1:22 pm #657138
acheadKeymaster[quote quote="Lide01":27kjg5gp]I now own Live about a year. First i really liked live but was not able to work fine with this prog on stage without a controller. After checking the market i didn´t find any controller that fits my needs. So I decided to create my own controller. Here you can see it:


The controller is created out of a kit of several modules that can bought/seen on the midibox.org website. By the way that is a great site too!
No that i can control all my functions i need via midi it really kicks ass on stage! The last 3 months i worked on a set for a live gig and with my controller this works definitely fine for on-stage-remixing!
Greetz, Lide[/quote:27kjg5gp]
Thats a cool peice of DIY there mate
AdSense 336x280September 28, 2008 at 8:03 pm #657161
gorky0123Participantlive = endless creativity. mindblowing
AdSense 336x280November 6, 2008 at 7:30 pm #659365
daskipParticipantPersonally i don’t like ableton for djing, as there are many djs out there that they cant make a mix on the real thing rather than just a software,and is always being like more and more people getting into djing whitout knowing the real deal about djing
AdSense 336x280December 2, 2008 at 3:26 am #660036
acheadKeymasterdaskip wrote:Personally i don’t like ableton for djing, as there are many djs out there that they cant make a mix on the real thing rather than just a software,and is always being like more and more people getting into djing whitout knowing the real deal about djingAgreed!
AdSense 336x280December 3, 2008 at 6:29 am #660107
sandboxParticipantya ya for sure
AdSense 336x280December 20, 2008 at 6:56 pm #661101
docshockerParticipantversianni wrote:[quote quote="daskip":1jhsi1li]Personally i don’t like ableton for djing, as there are many djs out there that they cant make a mix on the real thing rather than just a software,and is always being like more and more people getting into djing whitout knowing the real deal about djingAgreed![/quote:1jhsi1li]
Totally disagree. This is the classic "I’m working in a real medium, you’re not" argument, and every time it’s brought up — when electric guitars started coming up, when guitarists started using distortion, when djs started using cds instead of vinyl, etc. — it’s garbage.
The point is to create art, and it doesn’t matter how you do it. Some people only understand vinyl, some only get computers. Doesn’t matter. Create something brilliant; don’t hate because someone uses a medium you think is not "real."
AdSense 336x280December 23, 2008 at 8:03 pm #661220
RapVideoParticipantableton is whats up
AdSense 336x280January 1, 2009 at 3:55 pm #661727
larrykooleParticipantI play live drumset with a Roland SPS-20 trigger system along with a Behringer midi foot controller. I also play loops out of my MPC and the Boss SP-303.
AdSense 336x280January 1, 2009 at 6:42 pm #661748
joshlawsonParticipantMENTAL HOMEMADE CONTROLLER!
keep hearing about Ableton.
going to get involved!AdSense 336x280January 8, 2009 at 12:19 am #662183
joeynitroParticipanti have an openlabs miko, and dj gear,
but how do i setup i wanna dj straight into ableton?
cud u msg me plz!
thanksAdSense 336x280January 8, 2009 at 2:38 am #662196
rickfcParticipanti use it with the uc33 controller …works nice
AdSense 336x280January 13, 2009 at 3:40 am #662494
Kid GlovesParticipantGot to admit, in regards to the whole "i’m better than you cause i’m oldskoooool" argument, you could go either way.
On one hand, it’s impossible to deny that there are people who are getting into DJing quicker and easier (hence the ditigal format’s appeal) and as thus, are not taking the time to learn and appreciate the roots of what they are doing.
But by the same token, you could say that for music as a whole. Sure, digital downloads are meaning that music is easier to attain and certain music is no longer "unobtainable" i.e. one copy does not mean one copy. There’s only one physical record, you can copy and re-copy digital files over and over again. But now that music is becomming so vapid and easily obtained, it’s becomming easy to attain then forget about. If you’re just always easily obtaining something, then it stops it being as special.
Me personally, i am only just starting out, but i think i can speak for both sides. I can’t afford the initial cost of vinyl & equiptment and digital provides me with an insight of the world without the hassle, but on the same note i will always think that a DJ than can spin vinyl has a broarder skillset than a DJ who does not. I think of it like driving a manual vs. an automatic car. Sure, driving an automatic is still driving, but the manual driver has a lot better understanding than you. Plus, the quality of vinyl sound cannot be passed upon, for the audiophiles out there…
Just my two cents.
Oh, and i use Live. It’s a great program.
AdSense 336x280January 13, 2009 at 6:03 am #662502
BobaParticipantI prefer vinyl, simply because I need to be able to touch it.
AdSense 336x280January 26, 2009 at 7:55 pm #663132
acheadKeymasterHummmmmmmmmm… I think I´ll give it a try to Ableton for Djing…
AdSense 336x280January 31, 2009 at 10:41 pm #663483
dazooParticipantI recently did a set at a Dance Marathon at my school the University of Pittsburgh using Live and I had a lot of fun. I don’t have much experience with turntables but the other DJs were really impressed with what I was doing. I used a novation Remote SL 37 which is my only midi controller, but I am interested in getting a more DJ specific midi controller. I notice some of my favorite DJs use a trigger finger, does anyone have any suggestions.
AdSense 336x280February 5, 2009 at 3:52 pm #663616
bonnaventureParticipantPeople say I "cheat" because I use ableton and the m-audio x-session pro.
I’m a cheater, but the people dance, get drunk and have a really awesome time when they come to my parties. Maybe I should call some of those old guys who have been raving since the 90s to DJ my parties cuz I’m a cheater?
Girls dig their receding hair lines and "holier than thou" trance music.
Ok, that’s just a little joke at the vinyl purists in my area, I’m NOT poking fun at all vinyl/trance people.
AdSense 336x280February 8, 2009 at 6:56 pm #663749
OozerooParticipantI’ve played vinyl for years and the best invention I’ve seen and use for DJing is Serato Scratch. Its amazing and lets you get all ‘hands on’ with vinyl but you can still drop any mp3 you want. I think its good for a crowd seeing you move around vinyl and for scratching; if you’re active around your controllers and production tools that looks great too. As someone else said its all about getting folk rockin’ and people dont know what you’re doing half the time whether it be vinyl, CD or software anyway
AdSense 336x280February 14, 2009 at 1:33 pm #664107
EdwardRParticipantI’ve just done my first Live dj set. It was for a student night, so it quite cheesy.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/165420/Mix%20CD.m4a
G.A – Superstlyin
Bob Sinclar – What I Want (Wideboys Mix)
Dizzee Rascal – Flex (Dave Spoon Mix)
Outhere Brothers – Shake It (Wideboys Mix)
Dave Spoon – At Night (Moto Blanco Mix)
Peter Gelderblom – Waiting 4
Britney Spears – Circus (Villians Mix)
Kid Cudi & Crookers – Day & Night
Kanye West – Flashing Lights
Fatman Scoop – Faithful
Skee-lo – I Wish
Flo Rida – LowI don’t normally do rnb. Live has made my job a lot easier. I’ll probably do rnd sets, burn to cdj and use them in CDJ’s. Don’t really wanna take my laptop out, cos I rely on it for so much else.
AdSense 336x280February 22, 2009 at 5:56 pm #664445
supervinylParticipantI like the traditional dj set up but i have to say that new technologies, programs and even instruments (tenorion for example) are something to take advantage of. I dont believe these things would ever replace old school ways, nor are they made for that reason in my own opinion, but instead they can be utalised to work along side a traditional setup, perhaps make it better.
AdSense 336x280February 22, 2009 at 6:31 pm #664446
zenonParticipantas long as the result is exciting, why not? digital technology in good hands is a more powerful way to dj. we play synths when Beethoven played pianoforte. now it’s another time and honestly (for me) playing with vinyl is out of question
AdSense 336x280February 22, 2009 at 9:30 pm #664451
lsarkar1Participantableton is awesome, if ppl use it to dj then finee
AdSense 336x280March 2, 2009 at 6:42 pm #664858
gstillingreeceParticipantBeen producing with Abelton for about a year. Just started performing with it. Sony Vaio laptop running abelton and a djm 800. 100% versitility, and control. Iam still on Abelton 6.0.1. I beleve the later vertion is better for live work?
AdSense 336x280March 22, 2009 at 7:01 am #665764
tombrcParticipanthere’s my first creation with ableton live 7 LE. i used a loop i got froma capellas4u.co.uk. i’ve reached my download limit though
My opinion on this software is that it’s great. It allows a novice like myself to create "music". Any medium that allows people to express their cresativity should be applauded.
I’m sure an arrogant closed minded composer of fine classical music would look at a DJ much the same way a arrogant closed minded DJ looks at an Ableton user. Ultimately the aim should be to avoid being a ""arrogant close minded musician" it’s useless to argue that certain methods of making are best.
AdSense 336x280May 13, 2009 at 7:26 pm #667465
SameParticipantdazoo wrote:I notice some of my favorite DJs use a trigger finger, does anyone have any suggestions.Actually, I use a Korg PadKONTROL (which is practically a Trigger Finger with a few more functions) for all my sets and it works pretty well. I have been meaning to buy an honest DJ controller since I started actually getting paid for my work but I’m afraid I won’t like it as much.
AdSense 336x280May 15, 2009 at 7:11 am #667550
Nicky BluntParticipantDunno Id prefer to actually to the beat matching myself!
But for the cant mix crew!!!! I guess its okay!
AdSense 336x280June 9, 2009 at 6:34 pm #668583
ScottmacParticipantI don’t think you can say that DJing with LIVE is cheating. It’s different. It’s music creation, and just a different way to do it. Just because I cant play the drums doesn’t make me less of a creative artist when making drum tracks with a sequencer. Just an alternative route to the same destination.
I really admire the art of the vinyl DJ, a very underestimate skill but one which I just don’t have the time or talent to master.
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