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VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Do it yourself acapellas or DIY refers to the procedure of manually separating a vocal-only portion of a music track from its instrumental counterpart; also known as vocal extraction. Lots of techniques, advice and help in here for creating that very special D.I.Y acapella. (NO REQUESTS)

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Postby neken187 on Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:38 pm

lol thats not a bad idea marcicano but is any one willing to be up to the challenge...i already know how...:) the only hard part is finding a exact instrumental of the song
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Postby neken187 on Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:42 pm

doesnt using the noise reduction damage the acapella...it sounds all funky afterwards lol..i use the phase cancellation method and then use a plugin..it wont damage the acapella that much but it works good..i use another plugin called extra-boy..
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Postby Anonymous on Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:10 pm

hey guys

could anybody give me a detailed description of phase cancelation for cool edit 2.0. i just cant get it to work.

id be Extremely greatfull for any help! thanks, Ryan
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:33 am

Cheerz Its quite a gd method i must say
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Postby D1ST0RT3D on Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:55 am

Some pretty cool tips !

Will give it a try right away, tNx!
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Postby Anonymous on Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:02 pm

Thanks for tips TiMG. :)
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Postby WildAce on Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:32 am

wow these are really complicated... i don't think i'd ever master the art of this unfortunately :(
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:10 pm

I need help with making my own acapella. Its the Sambuca - DJ Luck & MC Neat. Ive tried Pan/Expand and etc. But it just doesnt seem to budge.

Help!
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Postby Devo711 on Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:40 am

Thanks for this!
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Postby Problem Child on Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:10 am

I need help here...I have Acid Pro and Cubase SX, how do I invert the phase??? In detail please, I'm new to both programs...PLEASE, I really wanna make a few acapellas!!
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Postby luizcarlos.rocha on Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:13 pm

Cool the methods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby extremetraxx on Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:06 pm

Sup guys

I know i'm a little late on this, but i figure'd that i'd put my 2 sense in (not on the biggy and 2pac *rap, but the DIY acapella original post). I tried using the intrumental version of missy's "i'm really hot" and inverting it with cool edit then over lapping it with the actual song. *it didn't go so well*... however, I took her actual song (not the instrumental) and inverted it then overlapped it in acid and it completely canceled everything out (once I got the volume's to match obviously)... Then I tried taking the first few 8-count beats and inverting it, then overlapping them with the actual song, and continuously looping those same beats over and over to math the rest of the song. It canceled the beats out in the section I ripped the beats from, however didn't work for the rest of the song. Seems like unless you have a *perfect* intrumental for the song you're using, then it won't work. But it didn't completely cancel eachother out when I got the parts right!!! Good stuff, but still impossible to use unless all frequencies within the song and the instrumental are perfectly matched to the "T"

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Postby VegasTrackmasters on Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:39 pm

OK anybody heard of the vocal zapper from alesis, I bought one and it made me pull my hair out. It's easy to get instumentals here in Vegas, 2 dj's are signed here so it's cake, I just want to be able to "separate" the vocals and I havent been able to. So please talk to me like I'm 5 and explain play by play. Thanks J
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Postby RIGGERS on Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:25 pm

tim i'm using a wave pad, once i've inverted the instrumental, how do i mix it in with the original, don't know what i'm doing but it just seems to be pasting the instrumental on the end of the track
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:45 am

The last method, in my opinion is the easiest. The others are quite difficult though.
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Postby craig hamilton on Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:04 am

yo man tried the phase thing... used adob auditon to invert the wav... then did exactly as mentioned in example 1

this totally eliminated everything... what am i doing wrong???

thanks

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Nice!

Postby Anonymous on Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:29 am

:cheesy:
nice tips man. def gonna try the phase cancellation one.
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Postby anisina on Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:14 am

craig hamilton wrote:yo man tried the phase thing... used adob auditon to invert the wav... then did exactly as mentioned in example 1

this totally eliminated everything... what am i doing wrong???

thanks

craig


I guess that you used the 'exact' same recording (including vocals) as opposed to getting the same recording but minus the vocals i.e. Instru***tal. You need the identical Instru***tal mix without vocals to 'mix' over the version with vocals. That way, the vocal should be the only sound remaining.

I hope that answers you're question.
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Postby craig hamilton on Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:55 pm

anisina wrote:
craig hamilton wrote:yo man tried the phase thing... used adob auditon to invert the wav... then did exactly as mentioned in example 1

this totally eliminated everything... what am i doing wrong???

thanks

craig


I guess that you used the 'exact' same recording (including vocals) as opposed to getting the same recording but minus the vocals i.e. instr****tal. You need the identical instr****tal mix without vocals to 'mix' over the version with vocals. That way, the vocal should be the only sound remaining.

I hope that answers you're question.


cool dude

thats what i didnt do cheers bro...

ill get onto it

thanks

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Postby Anonymous on Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:38 am

Good informations!!
Well done man!!

Thanks!
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Postby Anonymous on Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:55 am

10x..ill try it :)
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Postby Anonymous on Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:11 pm

Thanks for the info, definitely gonna give this a try!
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Postby GhostRidah on Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:15 pm

cant understand a got damn thang...

looks like a gods talk to me...:/

can someone tell how to do it to a dumb homie? step by step :D help plz plz... need to learn that stuff...
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help meee please

Postby G-DJ on Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:51 pm

:cry: :cry:

i dont have understood the first method well... there is something that can explain me in Italian ?? please
please
please
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Re: help meee please

Postby DJ Val on Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:17 pm

G-DJ wrote::cry: :cry:

i dont have understood the first method well... there is something that can explain me in Italian ?? please
please
please
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G-DJ Ho utilizzato un traduttore. Spero che abbia un certo significato

heres una descrizione dei metodi differenti impiegati per l'estrazione dei vocals...
1. IL METODO di ANNULLAMENTO di FASE ottiene un strumentale di una canzone, invertisce la fase (a volte refered a come lanciando) e la mescola con l'originale. Se fatto a destra tutto oltre al vocale è annullato fuori. Potete fare questo in tutto il continuatore come il cubase o l'acido. Il strumentale deve essere excatly lo stesso time/pitch tuttavia e mp3s non potrebbe funzionare se sono messi male. Destra dello zoom dentro vedere le 2 forme d'onda vicino a vicenda (cerchi i colpi del tamburo di scossa) ed allinearli in su.
2. IL METODO di KNOCKOUT che usando 'knock0ut '(http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) potete sottrarre spettrale l'un pezzo solo di audio da un altro. Inizi estraendo il centro mono di una pista (soundforge o il cooledit la farà con la caratteristica di pan/expand). allora provi e faccia un strumentale dai cicli dalla pista e 'per batterlo verso l'esterno 'delle parti vocali. Ciò può funzionare anche se il strumentale non è excatly lo stesso della canzone.
3. ALTRI METODI oltre a questi metodi potete provare freddo pubblicate (ora il modo di riduzione di rumore di audizione), che è molto potente. Analizzi un po'di strumentale ed ottenga un profilo (6000 o 4096FFT sono un buon formato).. riduca che dalla canzone intera. Potete anche provare i plugins spettrali del soundhack e Transmodder del Voxengo a futher riduce i nosies di spikey come i tamburi. (mi non chieda come. relativi tutti i prova ed errore). Non farete MAI un acapella completamente perfetto con 2 e 3. Potete tuttavia rendere qualche cosa di abbastanza buon funzionare nella vostra miscela. UTILIZZI I VOSTRI ORECCHI! ASCOLTI ed impari e potreste ottenere in qualche luogo
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Postby _Jake on Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:05 pm

I've tried all these methods and I have to say that the Kn0ck0ut method is the easiest and the one I've had the most success with.. thanks!
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Postby G-DJ on Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:36 pm

excuse me ...

there is a phase inverting ... on adobe audition ?
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:26 am

hey thanx TiMG bro....thats a big advice for all new comers as well as for PROs...i have tried tha first trick few times....n it usually has worked 4 me!
best of luck for all with these tricks :D
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Postby Anonymous on Mon May 01, 2006 5:17 pm

RIGGERS wrote:tim i'm using a wave pad, once i've inverted the ************, how do i mix it in with the original, don't know what i'm doing but it just seems to be pasting the ************ on the end of the track


hi!

i have a question.
why the 1st post in this thread and this post for ex. is with this stars "***" ?

is this inconvenience is refered as well to 5 days limit like for d/l ?
i didn't saw anything that says about stars in faq
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