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VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Do it yourself acapellas or DIY refers to the procedure of manually separating a vocal-only portion of a music track from its instrumental counterpart; also known as vocal extraction. Lots of techniques, advice and help in here for creating that very special D.I.Y acapella.

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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby ManiacReview on Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:57 pm

Helpful tut, thanks
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby Tyler Bryden on Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:25 pm

oh okay
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby upske on Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:01 am

Hi I'm just wondering is there a free program I can do this on for windows vista.. :D I cant seem to get the option2 working so im going to try the invert way :D
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby benno88 on Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:20 pm

Very good info! Thank you. Can't await to try it out.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby RollingStoned on Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:04 pm

Great info and thanks!

I'm new to DIY but not to audio/audio restoration (my full-time job)...so does anyone have a link for a full track and instrumental (RAR'd), so I can test and get some good practice? Thanks if so!
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby iferhat on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:01 pm

ANYONE KNOW OF THE TRANCE TRACK 'SILENCE BY DELIRIUM' SOMEONE UPLOAD THE ACAPELLA OF THAT
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby 151095 on Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:02 pm

Did'nt it was that easy! Gotta true it out soon! Thx.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby Synthetik FM on Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:52 pm

Here's a method I have found for 80's acapellas, and I may have mentioned this before:

The extended remix method!

Find an extended remix of an 80's song you want acapellas for. Study the structure of the remix, see if there are any instrumental bits corresponding to the verses or choruses that you can align alongside these verses and choruses

What you do: Open ACID (how I do it) ... beatmap the song
Do splits where all the vocals and choruses and vocal bits are
Find sections in the mix where instrumental parts match the vocal bits, split them from the song, copy and paste to where the vocal bits should go

And there you go, a DIY instrumental track which can then be used for acapella purposes.

A great song that this worked on was Howard Jones Things can Only Get better. I have the acapella for this in the directory, and I made this entirely using the extended 12" mix of this song. The mix had a long instrumental break where the verse and chorus instrumentation were repeated, these were the keys to isolating the vocals.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby ruffdug on Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:10 am

I have pro tools but i still use cool edit alot for editing great program all around
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby HifiBanjoStrings on Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:31 pm

I always use the phase cancellation - Audacity can't do much more. Managed to get some pretty good ones with that - I've got a Goldfrapp - Cologne Cerrone Houdini one that's pretty good that's being processed here (upped it the other day).
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby crazybaby on Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:56 pm

Thanks for posting this , it will help me out alot.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby Ghozer on Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:01 pm

So many pages on this thread, I haven't read through them all, however, I have a suggestion on creating acapellas (Forgive me if it has been suggested like I said)

my Surround system has various 'Surround Sensation' options, and Dolby Surround options (Pro Logic, Pro Logic II, VS, XD etc) and one of them pulls the vocals out to the centre channel perfectly, if I unplug the centre channel I get just an instrumental, and unplugging the other channels, gives me just an accapella..

I know this will be using the AMP's hardware to process the track in ways similar to how people have posted on here, but this will really save lots of time,

i'll soon be hooking my System up so I can record the acapella, or instrumental of any track I want, I'll let you all know how it goes once I have done some testing to find the best setting and levels, then i'll be churning them out like crazy :)


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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby slates4049 on Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:12 am

totally
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby coolioll on Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:28 pm

cool thanks, I'll try this out, I've always did the manual method by taking a instrumental of the original then invert it, then place the instrumental precisely under the original which mutes the instrumental leaving the vocal there.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby rayroc1 on Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:38 am

thnx!
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby TiMG on Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:41 am

Hey Ghozer
Sounds interesting.. I wonder if your hifi system is doing anything else besides isolating the center image..

I can't imagine it's doing anything other than what software like soundforge or audition does with a centre extraction setting.. but you never know. They're might be something else going on if you're getting such good isolation on the vocal (when isolating the centre imagine you should be getting lots of drums and bass too)

be interesting to hear the results
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby Melodyex on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:25 pm

Tried this on my own music, not perfect as tho a DIY acapella never will be but it really does work and is definatley a method you can use in your own music. thanks for the info.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby dizzman123 on Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:59 pm

cooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby jambo.1986 on Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:49 am

okay mann
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby dj kay dee on Sat May 07, 2011 10:06 pm

hey all... i tried using audacity 4 the instrumental inverting thing bt i dnt knw hw to mix em 2geth f sum1 cld plz giv m a detailed explanation
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby Kimazui on Thu May 19, 2011 9:03 pm

dj kay dee wrote:hey all... i tried using audacity 4 the instrumental inverting thing bt i dnt knw hw to mix em 2geth f sum1 cld plz giv m a detailed explanation


Use Audacity. The same method applies for other software but I learned how to do it with Audacity.
Import both Original track and Instrumental
Zoom in (Alt + 1 for in, Alt + 3 for out) and align the waves
Select the instrumental, then go to Effects>Invert.

That's it. One thing I should mention that this method does not work for every song out there. Even if the tracks are both aligned properly, in highest quality, it still may not work. So if you're trying this method and its not working, then the problem is probably the song, not your alignments.
I guess the other method of doing it is to contact the artist and request the acapella to remix it, but I highly doubt its that simple and if it is, there's always money involved...
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby OleSchool on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:31 pm

Has any one ever used Utagoe? Its a little programme (in japanese) that has given me some decent acapellas from time to time. I'm new here so let me know if I'm able to share this programme.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby bigdarnell on Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:26 pm

Don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but on oldies (read: pre-high compression, high gloss studio stuff from the 80's and thereafter) sometimes the tracked is panned very hard. Just split your file, identify which channel is vocal heavy or vocal exclusive, delete the other and convert the remaining channel to mono. Clean up whatever bleed you might have with equalizing and restoration techniques. This affords some decent acapellas, though often you get one other instument; for instance a perc-acapella or an acapella with bass etc....
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby bigdarnell on Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:34 pm

dj kay dee wrote:hey all... i tried using audacity 4 the instrumental inverting thing bt i dnt knw hw to mix em 2geth f sum1 cld plz giv m a detailed explanation

The tracks have to be lined up perfectly, meaning you will need to visually check the wave forms of both tracks to make sure they match exactly. Select your inst track, go to effects, choose invert, which will invert your wave form. Play back to see what you've got. If you've still got full inst or just inst background noise, your tracks might not be aligned perfectly. Adjust them. Zoom way the funk in to be sure you're matching absolutely perfectly. Playback. Repeat process. If you do this for a long time, and do not get a clean result, your tracks are likely not identical. Some filth will remain, though often more in some parts of the track than others.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby jornliebson on Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:10 pm

hi, i use the Melodyne editor for making my acapellas. u can watch an introduction how to do on the website celemony meodyne. i think its a nice tool.
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby AchmatT on Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:13 am

great tips bro... i think i should give it a try
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby shimm7r on Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:45 am

Very helpful ! Thanks !
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby ChunkyEatsMyDinner on Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:30 pm

iferhat wrote:ANYONE KNOW OF THE TRANCE TRACK 'SILENCE BY DELIRIUM' SOMEONE UPLOAD THE ACAPELLA OF THAT


Did you REALLY just ask that????
If that acapella was more widely available it would come bundled with Windows!!!!

U do deserve beating with a stick for asking that!
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby djtechno2010 on Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:46 pm

very nce info!
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby jch02140 on Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:49 am

Nice tutorial.

However, I am still not very sure if the Phase Cancellation method only works if you have an original and an instrumental tracks with exact length or does this also work with different track length?

For example, take this record's track listing:
A1 Eat You Up (Vocal) 6:40
B1 Eat You Up (Instrumental) 5:39
B2 Eat You Up (Radio Edit) 3:30

The records contains a radio version, extended version and an instrumental version of the same song.

Will Phase cancellation still works in this case?...
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