by LyricalMiracles on Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:12 am
Im deff gonna try these methods!! Thanks!
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by a.trackz on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:43 pm
good stuff
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by larrykoole on Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:07 pm
thanks that helps a lot
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by larrykoole on Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:50 pm
Mac has so much less software to work with than a PC
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by KTDJServices on Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:45 pm
WOW THANKS
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by dave_rave on Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 am
thank you so much, this is ridiculously helpful!!
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by c12mike on Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:59 pm
thanks for the info ima try that
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by SickaMorStyle on Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:43 am
heres an overview of the different methods used for extracting vocals...
1. THE PHASE CANCELLATION METHOD Get an instrumental of a song, invert the phase (sometimes refered to as flipping), and mix it with the original.. If done right everything besides the vocal is cancelled out. You can do this in any sequencer like cubase or acid.. The instrumental must be excatly the same time/pitch however. and mp3s might not work if they are badly encoded. Zoom right in to see the 2 waveforms next to each other (look for kick drum hits) and line them up.
I have sony acidpro 6.0...I have Intrumental and original track lined up perfect I get stuck on the step listed below...help me please...
invert the phase (sometimes refered to as flipping), and mix it with the original.. If done right everything besides the vocal is cancelled out.
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by spacetiger on Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:58 am
i never thought about the phase cancellation with an instrumental. that's a great idea.
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by lsarkar1 on Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:31 am
never tried it either but mite give it a go
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by JoeGood on Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:04 pm
Thanks for the helpful info!
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by Synthetik FM on Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:33 am
I discovered another method: you need two mixes of the same song, completely different except for that the vocals need to be exactly identical. Line up both mixes in acid, make sure the vocal lines up (you should hear a flange), hard pan left and right, render a wav.
Do a phase cancellation on the mix to eliminate the vocals. I use Nero Wav Editor's karaoke Filter, which will basically create instrumetal versions of each mix in each channel. Choose the channel you want to use, then line up the instrumental mix versus the original mix in ACID again. Render a wav, do phase cancellation again, and you have isovox!
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by Kokicc on Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:16 pm
Nice one.
The vocal is pitched, right?
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by Synthetik FM on Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:22 am
Kokicc wrote:Nice one.
The vocal is pitched, right?
yes, the vocal pitch has to match exactly with the pitch of the original mix, so you may need to pitch it down or up in ACID if they don't match.
Keep in mind, it works best if the only common elements both mixes have are the vocals, and maybe some backing (no bass or percussion). I have isovox for ABC's "The Look Of Love" which I will be uploading as soon as uploads are restarted ... on this one, I used the original mix paired with the 1990 mix (both taken from their greatest hits comp) ... the only common elements are the vox and strings, and that's what ended up being isolated.
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by nickkay83 on Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:27 am
Is it possible to make DIY acapella if you don't have the instrumental either?
I'm trying to get an acapella for Kings of Leon "Manhattan". It's become an obsession! lol
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by Synthetik FM on Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:01 am
nickkay83 wrote:Is it possible to make DIY acapella if you don't have the instrumental either?
I'm trying to get an acapella for Kings of Leon "Manhattan". It's become an obsession! lol
It can be done, depending on the structure of the song.
As a reference, check out my acapella for Eurythmics "Here Comes The Rain Again" which was done entirely with no instrumental. What you are looking for is sections of the song which are instrumentally identical or similar to the vocal parts of the song, but without vocals, or with different vocals. Most importantly, you want the beat and bass and other lower frequencies to be as close as possible. Line these sections across from each other in ACID, hard pan left and right, render a wav, then use the Karaoke filter in Nero Wave editor.
It won't always be perfect, but you can get good results.
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by DeiiiViiii on Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:21 pm
interesting! thanks!!
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by DanceMasterMan on Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:03 am
cna this work in audacity using an instrumental flipping the channels and mixing it with the original? and is that what they mean by invert the phase? just switching the left and right channels with each other?
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by Synthetik FM on Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:06 am
IN Audacity there is a function to invert the phase of your wave file. It basically makes this wave here:
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look like this:
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Still sounds the same, but when played at the same time as the non inverted wav, the frequencies cancel each other out.
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by bromf on Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:12 pm
just to say thanks for the info guys. the main reason i got into this site was to learn more about 'pellas. i look forward to getting the hang of this and sharing my results.
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by kw3t on Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:56 am
Thanks !!! man !!! beautiful
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by djstyles on Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:18 am
thanks for the tips. i will try them out.
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by Drazalon on Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:32 am
Is there a tutorial for Adobe Audition 3.0 for the Phase Cancellation method?
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by EnVenom on Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:53 pm
Thanks, this was helpful.
Interesting!
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by BA55UP on Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:44 am
awesome, i should be able to add some awesome aussie Scouse and NRG tracks with this method 
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by dettrance on Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:19 am
i have a question regarding vocal extraction methods. I use ableton to make my tracks and i've tried using audacity to rip acapella's but the program has been on the fritz lately. does anyone else know a good, FREE, software editor that i can use for DIY acapella's on Mac's. Would be very appreciated.....
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by Martinellis on Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:11 pm
Thanks for the info
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by Citizen on Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:04 pm
Hi!
Could somebody please make an acapella from song:
Sugababes - About You Now
I would be grateful for life!
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by raydj on Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:14 pm
thx!! 
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