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by **djsmarte** on Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:54 pm

useing method 1 do you need the instremental version and the original version of a tune for this to work???

by **Synthetik FM** on Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:02 am

I have now uploaded three acapellas I made using the method I described above:

Erasure - Oh Lamour
Erasure - Who Needs Love Like That
Human League - Dont You Want Me

You do hear a few other bits, but for the most part the vocals are bare and very useable in a mix.

by **anisina** on Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:24 am

djsmarte wrote:useing method 1 do you need the instremental version and the original version of a tune for this to work???

You need the original Instrumental and the original mix. Both have to be identical when the vocal occurs. That also means the BPM of the track.

There's a lot more to be said about stems in the mastering process, but that would require 5 hours to communicate with some satisfaction.

by **Mario.Oliveros** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:33 pm

Great, I'll try the methods someday

thanks for the thread TiMG

by **diamondsandgold** on Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:27 am

Thanks

by **ChunkyEatsMyDinner** on Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:41 pm

diamondsandgold wrote:Thanks

Congratulations on hitting 50 posts! :roll:

by **Dizzyfool** on Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:42 pm

Never had any success trying to extract acapellas, even when it works they always end up sounding horrible :p

by **djpino** on Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:43 am

very interesting, usable advice

by **Jingo** on Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:11 am

Dizzyfool wrote:Never had any success trying to extract acapellas, even when it works they always end up sounding horrible :p

The same here ^^

I always got a horrible sound and a very unperfect acapella. I surely do something wrong and I'll practice to make it better.

Anyway, thanks for the tutorial !

by **DJ RED** on Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:26 pm

referring to CEP:

a mistake a lot of people make is "applying TOO MUCH noise reduction". I can't stand those DIYs. It's ok if you hear a lil bit of the drums cause when you remix it, all the drums from the pella will be covered by the new beat you giving it. If you can't get a GOOD/MIXABLE DIY out of a song then DON'T DO IT!!!!

besides noise reduction, I also use the following. EQ, Hiss Reduction, FFT Filter.

by **Venomousfx** on Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:44 am

thanks for the tips

by **Anonymous** on Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:18 pm

I've been trying the phase cancellation method for ages but I can't get the audio to match up perfectly, is there a program that will do it for me?

by **Dean C** on Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:00 pm

thanks for the info m8.

by **TiMG** on Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:57 pm

hello all
don't come here much these days..

good to see its all still going
another tip:
try out voxengo PHA-979
its good for getting phase adjusted perfectly when doing the ol' phase invert method

by **mrcanon** on Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:25 pm

thanks!

by **Khayal** on Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:37 am

How can I extract the vocals with FL?

Sorry if this was already brought up, 18 pages is too much to look through

by **DarkPeterrX** on Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:53 pm

Thanks lol !!!!
I´m starting on this and this topic give me an idea about how can I do my owns ´pellas

Very useful, tnx

by **as19910722** on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:37 pm

easy mate
that was helpful

by **Anonymous** on Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:58 pm

you can do it cool edit pro or audition:cool edit pro, you'll need two files...instrumental and vocals. both have to be the same quality. invert the instrumental and line it up perfect with the vocals and then bounce the mixdown tack.

by **DaveT** on Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:03 am

Phase cancellation will never give you a clean acapella full stop.

There will always be bleed from other frequencies and you will always get that nasty phasing effect.

But Celemony have this new toy about to drop that claims to be able to do it. Apparently it can separate and isolate all of the different musical / tonal elements from any recording.

If what they are saying is true, it will be the biggest innovation since the sampler and will change the way we all work forever!

Fingers crossed.

by **djsamurai** on Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:47 am

Blessed love. Damn this forum full of info. Will try

by **bryten** on Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:26 pm

This is very informative....
Thanks for sharing the info. I have been searching for ages for this. Thanks big ups

by **djsamurai** on Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:40 am

I lined up the riddim in acid what effect do I use 2 kill the riddim?

by **pocket banger** on Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:25 am

Dizzyfool wrote:Never had any success trying to extract acapellas, even when it works they always end up sounding horrible :p

I've used audition a fair bit to pull out vocals, and have had varying results.

One thing that I did come across was that alot of older tracks (pre-digital, I think) were easier to get a good result from. I think it was because they were originally recorded with the vocals predominantly in one channel, and most of the instruments in the other one. I found some of the beatle's songs were like this, and the acapellas came out pretty clean.

by **MAXMILLIONAIRE** on Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:14 am

TiMG wrote:heres an overview of the different methods used for extracting vocals...

1. THE PHASE CANCELLATION METHOD
Get an instrumental of a song, invert the phase (sometimes refered to as flipping), and mix it with the original.. If done right everything besides the vocal is cancelled out. You can do this in any sequencer like cubase or acid.. The instrumental must be excatly the same time/pitch however. and mp3s might not work if they are badly encoded. Zoom right in to see the 2 waveforms next to each other (look for kick drum hits) and line them up.

2. THE KNOCKOUT METHOD
using 'knock0ut' (http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) you can spectrally subtract one piece of audio from another. Start by extracting the centre mono of a track (soundforge or cooledit will do it with the pan/expand feature). then try and make an instrumental out of loops from the track and 'knock them out' of the vocal parts. This can work even if the instrumental isn't excatly the same as the song.

3. OTHER METHODS
Besides these methods you can try Cool edits (now audition) noise reduction feature, which is very powerful. Analyse a bit of instrumental and get a profile (6000 or 4096FFT is a good size).. reduce than from the whole song.
You can also try the soundhack spectral plugins and Voxengo's Transmodder to futher reduce spikey nosies like drums.. (don't ask me how .. its all trial and error).

You will NEVER make a totally perfect acapella with 2 and 3. You can however make something good enough to work in your mix.. USE YOUR EARS! LISTEN and learn and you might get somewhere

TimG

the first 2 methods are cool , but if u want good results steer clear of the third , it's tricky and usually comes out sounding horrible.

by **Ra Jungle** on Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:02 am

ive tried these method for a while now... didnt work in my case thought.... thats prob because i dont have the original instrus for those songs i want to get vocals out... ive used one method ... where i use a custom aux-cord from player/pc/whatever to recording device, it isolates some vocals...

but mostly the wrong ones haha

by **djbigdizzy** on Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:19 pm

and i have audacity and garageband.. can i do it on those programs? if so, how?

by **jason141** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:37 am

how do you know if mp3s are encoded properly or not?

is there a way to do mehtod 2 with audacity?

by **jason141** on Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:51 am

maybe somebody could help me. I have the acapella for smooth criminal already. To help me explain what I need to do, here is a link to a you tube version of smooth criminal acapella.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUxhokvlG_E

skip to 3:22. now notice that during the chorus you hear michael going "I don't know. I don't know, yeah baby yeah something, something" and then later he screams "dagone it baby. dagone it baby"

I need to seperate those from the chorus.

can anybody tell me how to do that? I'd prefer for somebody to teach me to do it, rather than just doing it for me, because that way later on when I need something maybe I'll know how to do it.

by **lsarkar1** on Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:15 pm

cheeeers! I tried to do this on audicity but it didnt really work :\ ill give it a go on cubase mite have better success

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