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VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Do it yourself acapellas or DIY refers to the procedure of manually separating a vocal-only portion of a music track from its instrumental counterpart; also known as vocal extraction. Lots of techniques, advice and help in here for creating that very special D.I.Y acapella. (NO REQUESTS)

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Postby Anonymous on Thu May 10, 2007 10:13 pm

wat software 2 use
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Postby cameronc650 on Fri May 11, 2007 10:28 am

It's all a bit too technical for us novices!!!!
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Postby Anonymous on Fri May 11, 2007 10:55 pm

this Kn0ck0ut plugin can work as a pretty cool filter. Especially on guitars! I like it.
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Postby Tommypeedj on Sun May 13, 2007 9:41 am

Really nice!!!
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Postby Anonymous on Mon May 14, 2007 9:26 am

Really handy topic!! thanx!
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Postby Anonymous on Tue May 15, 2007 1:25 am

thanks for the info, very helpful
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Thanx

Postby Anonymous on Tue May 15, 2007 1:34 am

Thanx for the tip i never knew that you could create your own acapella's
thanx
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Postby Anonymous on Wed May 16, 2007 3:58 pm

wow! thanks for that
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Postby DJXL17 on Fri May 18, 2007 2:06 am

This thread is the niceness. 8)
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Postby djtrancesponder on Sat May 19, 2007 9:33 pm

Thanx for the info.
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Postby Anonymous on Sun May 20, 2007 4:27 pm

i'm not getting any good results... I see ots of different program suggestions and methods, but so far, I've been turning out some crap... but, I'm also trying to do rock music vocals... i saw a little in this thread... referrences and what not... but does anyone know if it would make much difference... for shits and grins I tried to do fresh prince and jazzy jeff - parents just don't understand... but I guess I'm not doing something right... i'm new to this, so I'm just i'm just misunderstanding something... any suggestions?
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Postby Anonymous on Sun May 20, 2007 4:48 pm

great info
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Postby Nate Dogg on Mon May 21, 2007 4:11 pm

thanks for that information! I will try to do some.
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Postby Anonymous on Tue May 22, 2007 12:54 am

I found that since the beat in a hip hop song is normally looped, if you can find one loop on a track with atleast a minimal amount of vocal (either in the beginning while the artist is cueing up or at the end as the song fades out). Just clip the loop from the song, and invert it (you can do all this in Sound Forge). Then you can place the song and the inverted loop in a loop based program like Acid. Worked well when I couldn't find the instrumental or acapella version of a song
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Postby Anonymous on Tue May 22, 2007 9:17 pm

trying the MDSP... amazing but complex tool...
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Postby Kitty'sRansom on Thu May 24, 2007 2:43 am

wow that's kewl
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Postby rdjbeats on Mon May 28, 2007 8:41 am

marcicano wrote:.. thank u very much noob. then u have to....
lol :shock:
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Postby Anonymous on Mon May 28, 2007 5:19 pm

ok it's cool now
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Postby djdj2 on Tue May 29, 2007 4:31 am

Sounds cool, How exactly do you do method 1 in acid?
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cool

Postby Anonymous on Tue May 29, 2007 6:13 pm

cool
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Postby Anonymous on Wed May 30, 2007 1:55 am

cool thankz...didn't work though but okeay
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Postby jlab980 on Wed May 30, 2007 4:28 am

that is so helpful
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Postby Anonymous on Wed May 30, 2007 6:05 am

That was very helpful...Ive never tried making acappellas but I think this will work =]
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Postby Anonymous on Wed May 30, 2007 5:32 pm

thnks man..very helpful
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Re: VOCAL EXTRACTION METHODS

Postby Anonymous on Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:09 am

TiMG wrote:heres an overview of the different methods used for extracting vocals...

1. THE PHASE CANCELLATION METHOD
Get an instrumental of a song, invert the phase (sometimes refered to as flipping), and mix it with the original.. If done right everything besides the vocal is cancelled out. You can do this in any sequencer like cubase or acid.. The instrumental must be excatly the same time/pitch however. and mp3s might not work if they are badly encoded. Zoom right in to see the 2 waveforms next to each other (look for kick drum hits) and line them up.

2. THE KNOCKOUT METHOD
using 'knock0ut' (http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) you can spectrally subtract one piece of audio from another. Start by extracting the centre mono of a track (soundforge or cooledit will do it with the pan/expand feature). then try and make an instrumental out of loops from the track and 'knock them out' of the vocal parts. This can work even if the instrumental isn't excatly the same as the song.

3. OTHER METHODS
Besides these methods you can try Cool edits (now audition) noise reduction feature, which is very powerful. Analyse a bit of instrumental and get a profile (6000 or 4096FFT is a good size).. reduce than from the whole song.
You can also try the soundhack spectral plugins and Voxengo's Transmodder to futher reduce spikey nosies like drums.. (don't ask me how .. its all trial and error).


You will NEVER make a totally perfect acapella with 2 and 3. You can however make something good enough to work in your mix.. USE YOUR EARS! LISTEN and learn and you might get somewhere

TimG


its hard to do some of these sometimes
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Postby Anonymous on Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:26 am

thank you very much guys
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Postby Anonymous on Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:30 pm

Cool, gonna check it!
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Postby Anonymous on Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:12 pm

thanks
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:26 pm

thxs
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Postby Anonymous on Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:41 pm

thanks gonna try this!
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