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What's your preferred format?

cd
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13%
vinyl
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25%
mp3
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60%
other (please state)
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3%
 
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Cd, Mp3, Vinyl

Postby acapella on Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:08 pm

Which one are you?
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Postby nickkay83 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:00 pm

Hi all,

Good poll, will be interesting to see what comes out tops.

I went for vinyl. Probably an obvious choice and is almost turning into a cliche amongst DJ's but I don't think a format will ever be created that comes near it. When I use MP3 (on Serato) and switch to vinyl, the difference in sound quality is extraordinary! Not only is vinyl louder and clearer, it also fills out the room with more depth. Digital sound just cannot emulate this.
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Postby chex4 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:54 pm

mp3 is mine.. only because i cannot afford a good set up yet :(
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Postby DJ Lenga on Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:36 pm

MP3 for sure.
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Postby Reggie_p75 on Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:20 pm

MP3 my precious music lovers....

Only quality stuff tho... 256kbps n above wherever possible, when working...

And any old sh*te 128k n above when listening on my precious digital gramophone device thing... yep, thats it.. MP3 player
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Postby popnfresh on Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:54 am

mp3 fo sho id rock serato if i could afford it
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Postby bootz on Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:51 am

i pick vinyl. not just for sound, but i feel more in control w/ my plates.
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Postby marimo on Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:31 am

MP3. Easy to buy, quick to get, and storage is no problem. :]
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Postby random1234567890 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:40 am

The quality of vinyl is no real comparison. The feeling of that sound is just... wow.

But I went for CD. Mainly because it's more convenient than vinyl and is much higher quality than MP3. Also, you dno't have to be as careful with it as vinyl.

I suppose I use MP3 more often though. But that's mainly because I love my iPod (and it's so much easier than having to carry about a discman...).
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Postby nickkay83 on Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:54 pm

Who put other?
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Postby Reggie_p75 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:20 pm

nickkay83 wrote:Who put other?


I think 'Other' comes into the category of using any old crap in audio format experimentation (how about 8-track hehe)...

Me n my bro (as 2 young whipper snappers) used a big 'spliff' like cone n stuck a needle in the end, rested it on the side of the record player (not a 'deck', a good old sh*tty record player) n proceeded to play Carl Douglas' Kung Fu Fighting, with wide eyed amazement :shock: ...

Retro technology at its best!!!!!

Imagine trying to use 2 Edison wax cylinders n a gramophone setup to mash some good old 1900's violin concerto with a brass ensemble with a percussionist....

Endless possibilities....... :idea:

As for recording cylinders... this always makes me p*ss my pants with laughter

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Postby track rayden on Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:59 pm

I chose vinyl as in, I would prefer vinyl was not such a painstaking labor of love to work with.

It's sound quality beats up all other formats but it's just not practical for me right now.

I mostly use mp3s through Serato on a pair Numark CDX's so I guess you could say I use Cd's still (if you count the time code).

So I guess I would rather use records but am definitely loving the mp3s.
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Postby anisina on Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:56 am

Other - as in DVD-A. Failing that, it's CDA.



Research shows
Persons under the age of 25 prefer mp3 for listening. Mainly due to cutting the top frequencies.

Persons around the age of 50 and above prefer analogue. Vinyl and Tape.

Anybody between the ages of 25-50 is more likely to choose optical medium.



mp3 is the worst listening format ever. If compression is required, then it should be FLAC. With FLAC you get a full tank of fuel, but with mp3 you get 1/2 a tank.
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Postby random1234567890 on Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:47 am

anisina wrote:Research shows
Persons under the age of 25 prefer mp3 for listening. Mainly due to cutting the top frequencies.

Persons around the age of 50 and above prefer analogue. Vinyl and Tape.

Anybody between the ages of 25-50 is more likely to choose optical medium.


Interesting...

I can't imagine that anyone would still listen to tape. I know people still use them to record things (like speaking exams/lectures and the like) but I wonder why you'd still use tape when you can just get a digital dictaphone which is so much better and much more reliable.

But I think there are more people in the under 25s who are getting more interested in older formats like Vinyl and are curious about them. Of course, they'll always chose CD or MP3 over it, but maybe once they get older they'll have more money and buy them :P
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Postby wintercactuz on Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:24 pm

Reggie_p75 wrote:MP3 my precious music lovers....

Only quality stuff tho... 256kbps n above wherever possible, when working...

And any old sh*te 128k n above when listening on my precious digital gramophone device thing... yep, thats it.. MP3 player



I would have to say that, IMHO, this is closest to what i was thinking upon reading the poll. :arrowu:
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Postby richardpudmann on Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:02 am

MP3
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Postby coojuice on Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:27 am

Well I actually went for cd in the poll as my prefered format but this would be for convenience, price and availability. For Djing i'd say I prefered vinyl for the feel and sound but tend to favour cd on an everyday basis.

mp3 is terrible and I still can believe people are buying this s**t! I mean, I download mp3's myself for djing with as this seems the only way to get tracks earlier, quicker and easier but I wouldn't dream of buying an album on mp3 for around the same price as going into tescos and getting a much better quality version! I really just don't get that???
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Postby Soruk on Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:48 am

My "Other" vote is for FLAC - I prefer lossless formats. After that I'd go for CD.
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Postby djrascall on Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:54 pm

anisina wrote:Other - as in DVD-A. Failing that, it's CDA.



Research shows
Persons under the age of 25 prefer mp3 for listening. Mainly due to cutting the top frequencies.



when you compress an audio file into an mp3 format it actually compresses all the unused frequencies not just the top end (you probably meant that but just in just some people dont know that are reading this i thought that it might help them) :smt002

and one of the first things done during vinyl mastering is that anything above 20khz and below 20hz get cut off as they are frequencies beyond human hearing as a rule. plus with the lower end why create needle woble which may force the needle jumping when you cant even hear it :cool:


oh .. VINYL IS STILL THE BEST SOUNDING FINISHED FORMAT JUST PURELY FOR THE WARMTH THAT DIGITALMUSIC IS YET STILL TO RECREATE ! :cheesy:

as far as use wise goes i would be with vinyl all the way as thats what i grew up with and find easier to use and more comfortable than vinyl... its all down to what your use to i guess .. its that age old question that i saw 10 years ago and that i reckon il still see in another 10 years ..
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Postby lebeau on Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:39 am

Vinyl!
I love them, I love the feel of them. I love the control. When people watch you spin, its way cool. They love it. The thing is though. . . cds are eah. . a little more convenient. But I luvs me my tables!



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Postby lebeau on Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:40 am

Vinyl!
I love them, I love the feel of them. I love the control. When people watch you spin, its way cool. They love it. The thing is though. . . cds are eah. . a little more convenient. But I luvs me my tables!



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Postby kinkbmxforlife on Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:26 am

I have to go with MP3, for its sheer convenience. Vinyl sounds a million times better, but who wants to carry a record player with them? My iPod will hold more than one roomful of records, and to me, that is worth the loss in quality.

As a DJ, quality is one thing, but being able to just click a file to queue it up is so much more worth it.
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Postby akieu on Tue May 05, 2009 8:51 pm

I'm gonna have to go with MP3. Easy? Yes Please.
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Postby polloxtroy on Thu May 07, 2009 2:52 pm

i chose vinyl, being in control hands on, having to work your mind, just the feel of vinyl and the authenticity of the pops and clicks associated to giving a breakbeat that undeniable sound.. dont get me wrong, every format has its use its just vinyl is what they aspire to, in my opinion
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Postby Zombie Jesus on Thu May 07, 2009 10:27 pm

High quality MP3
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Postby DJ Mycro on Fri May 08, 2009 4:44 am

Mp3 all the way... i use it so much u make songs,,, its just easy to use on pc

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Postby anisina on Mon May 11, 2009 2:51 am

random1234567890 wrote:
anisina wrote:Research shows
Persons under the age of 25 prefer mp3 for listening. Mainly due to cutting the top frequencies.

Persons around the age of 50 and above prefer analogue. Vinyl and Tape.

Anybody between the ages of 25-50 is more likely to choose optical medium.


Interesting...

I can't imagine that anyone would still listen to tape. I know people still use them to record things (like speaking exams/lectures and the like) but I wonder why you'd still use tape when you can just get a digital dictaphone which is so much better and much more reliable.

But I think there are more people in the under 25s who are getting more interested in older formats like Vinyl and are curious about them. Of course, they'll always chose CD or MP3 over it, but maybe once they get older they'll have more money and buy them :P


The main reason why the over 50's prefer analogue is because it is mechanical. The vast majority lost their ability to hear the over 16kHz area some time ago, and many over the age of 50 have never experienced reproductive media over 16kHz. Therefore, they don't miss what they have never heard. Likewise, many over 50's have never heard the low frequencies replicated in the way the younger generation do today.

Age related hearing degeneration versus technological advances of equipment, and production, produces complaints of to much 'boom boom' amongst the older generation.


djrascall wrote:
anisina wrote:Other - as in DVD-A. Failing that, it's CDA.



Research shows
Persons under the age of 25 prefer mp3 for listening. Mainly due to cutting the top frequencies.



when you compress an audio file into an mp3 format it actually compresses all the unused frequencies not just the top end (you probably meant that but just in just some people dont know that are reading this i thought that it might help them) :smt002


Yeah, that's what I meant. :D Digital and numbers 1 and 0. Kind of an ultra FFT reduction method for digital.



djrascall wrote:and one of the first things done during vinyl mastering is that anything above 20khz and below 20hz get cut off as they are frequencies beyond human hearing as a rule. plus with the lower end why create needle woble which may force the needle jumping when you cant even hear it :cool:


Could not agree more. A lot of the headroom in a mix is taken up by the lower frequencies. Depending on the mix content, I prefer to cut off the bottom as close to it's relative lowest relative root note as possible. For eg. If it's 32Hz then I place a 36dB cut slightly below 32Hz (31Hz) with a very low shelving boost (with a suitable Q) at an harmonic 5th or 7th just above, just to allow the bottom to show it's head slightly.

As for the top end, it's all ear, spectrum, and FFT judgement. Usually a shelf that has a 6-18dB reduction from 16kHz. I always put a 36dB reduction at 20kHz. Young children, and youths, are really sensitive to this area, so it requires a lot of thought when air is needed. I use a 19kHz sine wave to keep my daughter and the brats next door in check. Darn kids. :P


djrascall wrote:oh .. VINYL IS STILL THE BEST SOUNDING FINISHED FORMAT JUST PURELY FOR THE WARMTH THAT DIGITALMUSIC IS YET STILL TO RECREATE ! :cheesy:


Can't argue with the bold. And below contains an example of why, also in bold.

Would you really know the difference in a blind test? Respected Audiophiles have been duped in blind tests, where the purpose has been to show that Digital media is not cold. They concluded that the fault is in the transfer of information. For instance, low quality DAC's performed very poorly, in comparison to high quality DAC's, and are the main cause of the 'coldness'.

In 30 years time, we will be complaining of how music has no air.#



Good posts by the way. Not often seen around here these days. :gg:
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Postby nickyblunt on Fri May 15, 2009 7:16 am

serato all the way for me so Id say either mp3 or aiff as when working with an aiff file they are lossless!
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Postby pretty_ugly on Sat May 16, 2009 10:09 pm

I like mp3 but I certainly wouldn't pick CD since the loudwars made most of the recent releases unlistenable. That's why in some way vinyl remains superior.
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Postby Zombie Jesus on Sun May 17, 2009 12:20 am

Zombie Jesus wrote:High quality MP3


But preferred above MP3 is FLAC or anything lossless of course.
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