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Postby washa on Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:53 am

tap the tempo...

...but newly released applications has it build in which is great imo
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Postby Player Zero on Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:27 pm

Get the original track, check the bpm of it, more often than not the bpm of the acapella will be the same.
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Postby syrus1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:14 pm

Take 16 bars.. then proces them throug a beatcatcher.. most can analyze the bpm
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Postby wazzelby on Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:55 pm

I didn't know about the 50 post thing either and I've been on here a little while, just never spent much time on the forum.
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Postby syrus1 on Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:33 pm

you should spend time on the forum.. always nice to help each other..
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Postby yessirvankay on Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:43 pm

i just put the original song on acid and beatmap it
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Postby akosp on Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:10 pm

I play the original instrumental and tap it out. To fix any error in bpm, I then go through the acapella every 5 bars and adjust as needed. I do this with ableton live 8. Of course, there are other ways, but mainly just find a way that works for you.
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Postby instinct on Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:59 pm

i use a metronome for working out bpm usually, comes in very handy!

but i guess having the bpm already there would save a lot of time, better get posting!! only 49 posts to go!

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Postby murphjohns on Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:18 pm

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Postby Remedy on Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:13 am

i put the desired acapella into Virtual DJ 6 & it show's the tempo, so i then make an instrumental to or around that tempo & i'm away laughing, mixing it straight out of virtual DJ.
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Postby Shanow on Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:57 pm

Yea, there is a tap tempo thing in cubase too, pretty usefull.
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Postby votefordiego on Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:15 pm

theres also a program called Pistonsoft BPM Detector which is very easy to use and gives an accurate bpm of tracks and acapellas.
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Postby djjspin on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:49 pm

very helpful
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby Ryuji on Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:31 pm

check the bpm against the original, or if you know the beat just tap 4 times, most programs can analyze that info and give you bpm
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby Banny83 on Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:36 pm

49 to go :)
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby djRICK-T-FIED on Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:27 am

Fabes wrote:Hi,

I guess that this question has been asked several times before, but i couldnt find an answer... So how to find out the BPM of an acapella ? Is There any List or something like this ?


The most reliable way to get an extremely accurate bpm reading on any song or most any accapella is with a little known plug-in that was made to go with the old Cool Edit Pro 2.0 or it's later incarnations as Adobe Audition 1.0 or 1.5. I still keep those old programs on my computer for only one reason: to get accurate bpm readings to the thousandth of a bpm. Yes, that means it calculates the bpm to a readout like 125.493. Once you work with bpm readings that are that accurate it makes it difficult to use whole number bpms or even readings with one decimal point.

The way the utility works: Just hilight a section of the song and it calculates the bpm for that section. Doing acapella tracks without any kind of rhythm beat etc, would usually require repeating that hilight and calculate process a couple of times on different sections of the acapella. It the number came up the same or similar twice or more then you know you're in the right area for bpm. Also, if you calculate on a known 32 or 64 count (or chorus section of the acapella) you're more likely to get an accurate to extremely accurate bpm reading for that acapella.

The plugin was called AUTOBPM. Version 100 worked with Cool Edit Pro 2.0 Version 101 worked with Audition 1.0 and with some messing around you could make it also work with 1.5. Because Adobe changed the engine of Auditon with version 2.0, AUTOBPM could not be used with that version or beyond.

I just checked and the guy still has the plugins available for downloading. The site address is: http://www.pyramidedata.dk/

Hope that helps.

RICK


One interesting observation about bpms: 10 years ago the bpm plugin would generate a wide variety of results (126.220, 134.358 etc). With more and more digital editing and remixing, you'd be amazed how most bpms now come back as one of the following: (127.999 130.012 126.001 and the like.) The machines that are designed to help people be more creative have ended up making remixers sound more alike in some ways than ever before.
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby DJJules on Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:35 am

I dont want to sound like captain obvious, but the BPM of an acapella would be the same as the bpm of the song. Just sayin.
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby rencye1 on Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:31 am

There is another option for the fruityloops users.
You can tap the BPM by yourself. It won't be always perfect
but you can get it so closely that you can tune it by yourself to make
it perfect.
The thing you have to do is:

1. Load in a acapella
2. Take the waveform into the playlist (not nesacary, you can also just play it. But if you do it this way you can see better what you're doing)
3. Push play (Put it on song mode first)
4. Then click on the BPM with your right mouse button.
5. Select TAP
6. What you see now is a tap. The only thing you have to do is click by feeling on the tap. You have to click on the beat.
What's gonna happen is that the BPM will be adapted on the way you click. The thing is that it only makes round numbers like:
140BPM, 142 PBM or 143BPM. It won't make a BPM like 140.500, 142.750 or 143.950.
7. So after tapping the beat, you have to make an 1/4 beat and put it in the playlist straight on that first beat of the acapella. Put this beat over the whole acapella.
8. Then you gonna play it, listen and if you think the beat is going to fast, make the BPM lower by putting the numbers behind the comma down.
For example:
You've tapped 142.000 BPM. You hear that the beat goes to fast. Then just lower it like this: 141.750.
Still to fast? Lower it again. Etc. Is it to slow, then you have to put the BPM up.
When its to slow at the beginning you have to put the BPM up in the same way.
For example:
142.000 to 142.250. To slow? Put it up again. To fast? Lower it. Etc.

I hope this might help you!

Greetz & Beatz

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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby Esona on Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:46 pm

Newbie here.
I just wanna say thanks for the thread.I been searching for a long time on how to set up acappellas properly as i alsways done it the really long way round.
I just downloaded mix meister bpm reader got the setting,set it up to my first beat and 'ker ching' its done.
Thanks for the info.

Peace
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby nenapod1 on Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:47 pm

If you ever get REALLY desperate.... Put your headphones on, listen to the acapella, clap/pound out the BPM.... then measure that. Usually works for me. It's a bit low tech though!
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby juno on Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:38 am

Guys...Gals....//!!COMMON SENSE TO YOU NOW!!\\

1. Record a small bit of the song off the internet, youtube, etc...(which isn't illegal if its a clip not used for anything other than this) or obtain the whole song.

2. Use your Metronome to correctly align the beat of the song to a speed/bpm.|| 1kick.tic.tic.tic.2snare.tic.tic.tic.3kick.tic.tic.tic.4snare.tic.tic.tic||: (repeat)
.....guess the next step yet?

3. Match the Acapella to that region of the song. PUT THE WORDS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. The region's tempo will tell you speed/bpm of the acapella assuming you've placed the right word/syllable on the beginning of its measure.

Practicing syncopation in your voice is the easiest way to figure out how to do this the much easier way.
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby noddynoodle on Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:18 pm

I just put the metronome on in FL and adjust the BPM up and down, I usually manage to do an approximation on my own so I don't have to start at 60 and work my way up one bpm at a time, lol. With tracks that aren't recorded to the steady bpm of a metronome or electronic track, it might be like 119.67 or something on average, in which case I just cut it up and fix it (after stretching, if necessary/wanted).
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby reubenf10 on Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:57 am

if you are using ableton, it becomes much easier.
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby balboosa on Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:31 pm

gonna get that 50...
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby Lordbid on Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:42 pm

run it through bpm analyzer software, its the best way
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby AudioTactics on Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:17 am

If I had to figure out the tempo, I would probably drop it into logic with a beat and then change the bpm of the track until it seemed to fit correctly... not sure how else you would do it...
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby nightwish10 on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:53 am

Easiest way surely is as previously mentioned to find the BPM of the original track and then hope for the best the acapella matches it. If not, a trusty metronome will do the trick.
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby AudioTactics on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:39 am

nightwish10 wrote:Easiest way surely is as previously mentioned to find the BPM of the original track and then hope for the best the acapella matches it. If not, a trusty metronome will do the trick.


But this assumes that you can find the BPM of the original track... so I'm not really sure this solves the issue.
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Postby mattsubc on Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:48 pm

RustyPiss wrote:The magic of Acid Pro worked a treat for me. Thanks



Acid Pro is awesome for stuff like this with it's beat mapping capabilities. :smt007

Way more accurate than trying to tap a metronome, especially if the tempo isnt perfectly constant.
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Re: How to get the BPM of an acapella

Postby bigdarnell on Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:38 am

don't know if anyone's already said this, but i just pull up the original version of the song on youtube and count it out, which is made incredibly easy by the fact that the vid provides a clock by which to do your counting.
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