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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:12 pm Reply with quote
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im gonna throw a generic one out there? theres pros and cons for both. pulling of a live show of genuine mashups is a pretty difficult. Im thinking what of the possibility of using the live element of serato wth a combination of your preset mashups from ableton with standard tracks/instrumentals/acapellas to keep a live set going???

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could be cool, could be overload. im not proficent with ableton at all yet, so im wondering, am i jumping the gun and ableton can do everything that my heat desires? i think it is the superhero program, but i do miss the turntables. Dont miss carrying them. Is the grass always greener?

i heard of guys using primarily serato live and accenting with ableton. but what about scratching with ableton direct feed?

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elektrodisiac wrote:
im gonna throw a generic one out there? theres pros and cons for both. pulling of a live show of genuine mashups is a pretty difficult. Im thinking what of the possibility of using the live element of serato wth a combination of your preset mashups from ableton with standard tracks/instrumentals/acapellas to keep a live set going???

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could be cool, could be overload. im not proficent with ableton at all yet, so im wondering, am i jumping the gun and ableton can do everything that my heat desires? i think it is the superhero program, but i do miss the turntables. Dont miss carrying them. Is the grass always greener?

i heard of guys using primarily serato live and accenting with ableton. but what about scratching with ableton direct feed?



Serato all the way ... that alone already pushed the boundaries of turntablism to the next level. Accenting with ableton would either be too much (unless you have 3 or better yet, 4 arms) ..... or for someone to mess around with who can't DJ yet.

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but can you multi layer tracks on the fly with serato? my goal is mashup live, if that is even humanly possible with one set of arms

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elektrodisiac wrote:
but can you multi layer tracks on the fly with serato? my goal is mashup live, if that is even humanly possible with one set of arms


Of course it's possible. You need to prepare (warp) all your tracks in Ableton first though, and at least have an idea of what you want to play... what will keep your crowd rocking. In that the only thing that helps unfortunately is the actual experience of being a Dj.

And since you're only using one channel for your laptop which runs multi channels through Ableton, you can hook up a turntable for scratching on the second channel of even a small 2-channel mixer... or rewire through Ableton. I'm using M-Audio's Torq instead of Serato, but I should've gone with Serato instead.

The main thing is to have an idea of what you want to play before you get to the gig... oh, and a MIDI controller helps too. Cheesy Grin

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The main thing is to have an idea of what you want to play before you get to the gig... oh, and a MIDI controller helps too. Cheesy Grin



Exactly

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This topic (as great as it is) is really borderline being shoved in 'AudioChat'

As yet I'm undecided.

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you could, using ableton's vertical organizer set up and shuffle pre made loops using a midi controller along with your typical DJ equipment

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would this require two laptops?

one for ableton and one for serato?

or you think i could run them parallel on the same machine?

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i just spoke with a guy that has done this set up before. He said you would need 2 computers, one the serato set up, and one for ableton. run it all through a three channel mixer, that way you can use the ableton lapton as a third instrument through the third input on the mixer.

also, how well does the auto loop function work on serato?

just bought the set of mk2's, getting ready to gear up.

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