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September 8, 2004 at 3:50 pm #529937

ddot
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Not good at all!

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September 8, 2004 at 3:50 pm #566503

ddot
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Not good at all!

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September 8, 2004 at 4:16 pm #566504

juno
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i think somebody ran out of money does that apply for mixing and bootlegging also or just distribution rights? that’ll put a big damper on DJs if so! this goes way back to when James Brown filed suite against Erik B. for sampling his vocals. i’ve looked at alot of the small print from UK based labels like Fingerlickin’ Records/Inc. that wont allow public spinning or broadcasting of songs without paying royalties to the label. who knows, maybe all this’ll turn out to be a good thing.

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September 8, 2004 at 5:05 pm #566505

Mel
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Well, this just helps define what music has become today.

I would think that a music artist should feel honored when another person samples their lyrics, music, concept, etc. That’s like paying the greatest homage to the person. And as for the sampler, it wouldn’t hurt to get the artist(s)’ permission before using their material. Hell, even slide them a few hundred bucks as an offering. But noooooooooooo, everybodys out for the quick, slick buck! And it reflects in this garbage coming through US radio waves.

US Mainstream music is headed for the biggest collapse of all time. Then, people like underground djs, bootleggers, mix and mashers (such as people as ourselves) will rise up, and lead the new revolution / renaissance of TRUE music.

I just gave ya’ll prophecy!!

Acapellas4u is the future, baby!

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September 9, 2004 at 12:15 pm #566507

achead
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HOW CAN THEY SUE IF THEY CAN’T RECOGNIZE THE SAMPLE OR DETERMINE ITS ORIGIN?

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September 9, 2004 at 2:31 pm #566508

Procleus
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[quote:227e4rw7]HOW CAN THEY SUE IF THEY CAN’T RECOGNIZE THE SAMPLE OR DETERMINE ITS ORIGIN?[/quote:227e4rw7]

Believe me, if you or I or any music fan can say “that’s Parliament” or “that’s Madonna”, then I’m sure a committee of lawyers can say what, who, and when about the origin. The funny thing about all of this is that Rap is being unfairly targeted, again. If those rappers aren’t turning us sheep into mysoginists, racists, addicts, traitors, or criminals, they’re forcing us to think about where the hell we heard that one sample before!!! You know what it’s like: out of nowhere you’ll think of a loop or a bite you heard in the past two days, and after figuring out where you heard it, then you have to figure out where it originally came from!

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September 21, 2004 at 2:57 pm #566656

achead
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What part of NE are you from NE hustler?

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September 22, 2004 at 11:20 am #566658

achead
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Word….I’m living out here too….So , you listen to your Chubby Chubb and Clinton Sparks….Huh……? Small World.Yo , maby you can help me get these Blend joints out ?

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September 29, 2004 at 10:01 am #566715

Procleus
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[quote:1lfimww0]i thought you could sample royalty free as long as the sample is under a certain time limit?? [/quote:1lfimww0]

Non-commercial and educational purposes only. And if I’m not mistaken, if you publish to the web, you need permission either way.

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October 2, 2004 at 2:56 am #566757

Mel
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It’s too much business in music these days. I think music is headed for an all-time low. Can you imagine? Trying to be creative, but having to ask permission of an A&R for what and what not to create. I know this is WAY left field, but I had to say it.

As for the topic, I can see if people are really “sampling,” as the word implies. But damn, I’m hearing the same stuff over and over again. And by the way, I’m pretty sure this whole legal thing is geared DIRECTLY at hip-hop, cause its the genre that does damn near all the sampling. Don’t hear it in any other music. Just hip hop. Peace!

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October 17, 2004 at 4:19 pm #566881

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this upsets me a great deal. I’ve seen it comming for years as i’m sure most of us have, so it’s really more of a dissapointment than a suprise right.

Any way, I wonder if this only applies to direct sampling of recorded material or if they will start bitchin and bustin heads if an artist gets inspired by a melody they heard in their parents record collection and then decide to re-create it in the studio themselves? if so, then we are either gonna stop hearing music produced in the states or there will be a revolution in the way music sounds based solely out of necesity. (jeez i cant figure out how to spell that!)

what I mean is that for example there are only so many bass riffs or beats out there. all the rest are just slight variations of the same sounds and patterns we’ve been hearing since music was first recorded. so what’s next? is someone gonna get sued for using a standard 4-4 beat cuz someone else did it first.

I know this is a little extreme, but my point is that if the law only applies to direct sampling of recorded material, then I’m not really too worried cuz it’s pretty easy to emulate previously recorded sounds and patterns.

Naturally hip hop will be the primary target genre cuz rap is so canabalistic, but if they take this to the extent I described, I don’t think that these laws are only gonna effect us low life hip hop artists. in reality, this will effect all genres accross the board cuz we all are guilty of being inspired by those that came before us and putting our own spin on their familiar sound.

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October 19, 2004 at 4:01 pm #566902

reset
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[quote quote=” that doesn’t mean you’re stealing someone else’s message when you do that. it means that you’re putting their message into a different context, and making a new message from it.[/quote]

yes, but for the sake of argument, I could see where as an artist, if someone sampled my “message” and placed it into a context that I never intended, in essence changing the meaning of my message, I may be inclined to be a bit pissed… but thats just fot the sake of argument.

I actually think fivedots makeas a valid point though. I like hearing an old song sampled and placed into a more modern setting. It kind of gives new life to a classic song that may otherwise be generally forgotten.

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