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January 12, 2007 at 11:27 pm #537643
leeroyparnellParticipantSorry if someone’s posted anything similar, I haven’t been able to read all the threads lately.
Just some ideas, using the multitrack mixer and the FX rack so you can experiment real time (for use with stereo material, of course)
Rather than explain in extreme detail, I’ll give a brief summary and tons of screenshots…
you’ll need (as noted above)
1. Adobe Audition
2. knockout VST
3. Waves Bundle (whichever one has the MS-Stereo plugins)—-
to begin, open audition and switch to multitrack view
insert your stereo file into track 1 and click on the track 1 fx mixer settings
in the left-side list, browse to
Direct-X -> Waves -> S1-Imager
select it, and then press ‘Add’This adds a filter that lets us play with the stereo imaging real time, shifting the channels wider (more stereo) or narrower (less stereo), which will allow us more flexibility over what knockout can do… more on that later
now we must add the rest of our filters… first add
DirectX -> Waves -> S1-MS Matrixthen
VST -> Knockoutthen we add one last filter, and i’ll explain why. add it first:
Amplitude -> Channel MixerWe need this filter because knockout outputs its filter results to ONLY the left channel… for convenience, we will set the Channel Mixer to make it output to both.
Your rack should now look like this. It is important that it does.
If not, start over.
If it does, let’s continue. Click OK.
You’ll see the FX 1 button is now activated on track 1, meaning effects are on for this channel. Right click the button and go to ‘FX Settings’You should now have this (below), switch to channel mixer
Switch to preset "Both = Left" or just configure it as below.
Press the play button (you need NOT close the FX Settings window).
Switch back to the controls for the S-1 Imager and play with the settings. Here are a few screenshots, along with a text description of what the setting is basically doing.
This will give you the audio elements that are present in ONLY the left channel (this is basically a Dolby Pro Logic surround channel, for those interested). This isn’t the same as the right channel, because the center channel data has been removed from it.
This is the opposite of the first example, ONLY right channel audio elements.
This is a kinda in between setting. You’ll basically end up with the furtherest left-panned audio with all right channel audio extracted, except for the bit of right channel data that is closest to center (it’s hard to explain, just try the settings, you’ll hear it!)
You can substitute any type of stereo effect for the S-1 Imager, experiment with chaining different effects together, adjust your knockout settings, leave the S-1 MS Matrix filter out (or bypass it using FX Mixer).
If you really want to kick things up a notch, use FX buses to route different combinations of stereo effects into separate left and right channels to have EXTREME control of what knockout can really do!
This may not make an acapella every time either, it’s just an additional resource for your arsenal. If nothing else, this is great for isolating stereo elements very easily, which also makes it handy for sampling.
More to come later.
AdSense 336x280January 12, 2007 at 11:27 pm #609712
leeroyparnellParticipantSorry if someone’s posted anything similar, I haven’t been able to read all the threads lately.
Just some ideas, using the multitrack mixer and the FX rack so you can experiment real time (for use with stereo material, of course)
Rather than explain in extreme detail, I’ll give a brief summary and tons of screenshots…
you’ll need (as noted above)
1. Adobe Audition
2. knockout VST
3. Waves Bundle (whichever one has the MS-Stereo plugins)—-
to begin, open audition and switch to multitrack view
insert your stereo file into track 1 and click on the track 1 fx mixer settings
in the left-side list, browse to
Direct-X -> Waves -> S1-Imager
select it, and then press ‘Add’This adds a filter that lets us play with the stereo imaging real time, shifting the channels wider (more stereo) or narrower (less stereo), which will allow us more flexibility over what knockout can do… more on that later
now we must add the rest of our filters… first add
DirectX -> Waves -> S1-MS Matrixthen
VST -> Knockoutthen we add one last filter, and i’ll explain why. add it first:
Amplitude -> Channel MixerWe need this filter because knockout outputs its filter results to ONLY the left channel… for convenience, we will set the Channel Mixer to make it output to both.
Your rack should now look like this. It is important that it does.
If not, start over.
If it does, let’s continue. Click OK.
You’ll see the FX 1 button is now activated on track 1, meaning effects are on for this channel. Right click the button and go to ‘FX Settings’You should now have this (below), switch to channel mixer
Switch to preset "Both = Left" or just configure it as below.
Press the play button (you need NOT close the FX Settings window).
Switch back to the controls for the S-1 Imager and play with the settings. Here are a few screenshots, along with a text description of what the setting is basically doing.
This will give you the audio elements that are present in ONLY the left channel (this is basically a Dolby Pro Logic surround channel, for those interested). This isn’t the same as the right channel, because the center channel data has been removed from it.
This is the opposite of the first example, ONLY right channel audio elements.
This is a kinda in between setting. You’ll basically end up with the furtherest left-panned audio with all right channel audio extracted, except for the bit of right channel data that is closest to center (it’s hard to explain, just try the settings, you’ll hear it!)
You can substitute any type of stereo effect for the S-1 Imager, experiment with chaining different effects together, adjust your knockout settings, leave the S-1 MS Matrix filter out (or bypass it using FX Mixer).
If you really want to kick things up a notch, use FX buses to route different combinations of stereo effects into separate left and right channels to have EXTREME control of what knockout can really do!
This may not make an acapella every time either, it’s just an additional resource for your arsenal. If nothing else, this is great for isolating stereo elements very easily, which also makes it handy for sampling.
More to come later.
AdSense 336x280January 15, 2007 at 2:18 am #610071
Medicine ManParticipantAh, using Knockout for this has been confusing me for a while. Thanks!
AdSense 336x280January 25, 2007 at 5:16 pm #611180
acheadKeymasterI have Audition, so i’ll give this a try…thanks for postin’
AdSense 336x280May 9, 2007 at 5:00 pm #621003
buergermeisterParticipantcool. but i think the process is easier if you use cubase. but thx for the tutorial.
AdSense 336x280June 7, 2007 at 8:01 am #624321
dd2000Participantany protools users here??
AdSense 336x280August 13, 2007 at 11:43 am #631307
JuggernautParticipantdjnando wrote:thnxPlease do NOT post one word replies or start new topics that have no constructive sense to them whatsoever.
You will receive an official warning next time.
AdSense 336x280January 6, 2014 at 5:28 pm #701568
mic_cimParticipantthank you for this
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