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Postby marcicano on Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:21 am

can some body tell me how to remix an acapella with ejay. the tempo of ejay beats 90 and the acapellas bmp is 157
how do i match the beat with the acapella
please help. can some one give me a mathmatical formula for the tow bmps matching together. please help me.
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Postby gordon on Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:45 pm

many thanks for this tutorial. it helps me a lot. great job
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Re: Question for Mixmeister & Pella BPM counting...

Postby NVS on Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:53 am

crankhouse wrote:Is it even possible to count or even have a BPM, with out the Beat? Hince the BPM label? I have the Mix meister software, and it will give you a reading and a value for a straightacapella, but then I noticed MAJOR differences from the acapella value, vs the original beat included version of the same song? So much so that is has me to the point now that I do NOT even trust the counter program, although it seems to function so seemlessly! Its a shame to, cuz it seems liek ti could be such a resourcful program??? Let me know what Y'all know on dis issue? I have been told both:That a BPM does not exist without the Beat, and I have also been told dat ACID or some program will read straight acapellas? But after my experience I wonder if it will calculate a accurate value? Or if it merely calculates a value relative to what it thinks is the Beat(s)???

In other words, what is the legitamacy of a Acapellas calculated BPM, with No instrumental behind it for a Beat reference????

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You can also use Fruity Loops if you have it. It'll give you an accurate BPM of an acapella. Well it does for me anyways. Load your mp3 into the bottom playlist thing, and click the arrow that's pointing down and select 'Detect Tempo' it'll find it and then ask if you want to set your song to that tempo. You can also 'Fit to Tempo' if you need it to fit a certain song.
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Postby Devo711 on Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:53 am

Aha! Thanks, I've been looking for some help with this. I think this tutorial finally answered my questions.
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Postby Vaz on Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:58 pm

learning some good things here thanks for putting this up juno!
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Postby DJ Levant on Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:43 am

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Postby shivar on Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:27 am

This thread is wicked. Dont suppose any1 can help me, im tryin to convert an acapella into a fast bpm then normal. Can i do this acuratly in soundforge, or is there something that can in a way, change the bpm ( il do the pitch later ) with a click?
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Postby lewelsch on Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:42 am

Here is 11 very cool javascript sample calculators to help us to deal with samples, time-stretching, pitch-shifting, tempo, delays, sampling rates, sample lengths, bpm, notes... [avecVersion Française]

http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php

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Postby FruitBomb on Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:52 am

Great info,i'll be tryin some of these out for sure.I agree that sometimes its better to let your ears suss it out,but then sometimes you need a little help from technology.Some things are easily figured out in your sequencer(drop your track over a looped drum sequence and alter the bpm till it fits)or a beatslicer like recycle.Take the track that you want to determine the bpm of, isolate a really tight 2,4 or 8 bar loop(tis can take a bit of tweaking) and save as a seperate file.Open this in recycle,click "no" when asked if you want recycle to find the first slice,and then click the slice button on the transport bar(circle-thing with green"play"arrow inside).You'll be asked to enter a bar amount.Do this,hit enter and there you go!BPM based on bar length.I do this all the time and except for erratically tempo'd tracks it works really well.
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Postby Tuckie on Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:01 pm

Nice tut i just made a track using 50 cent vocals "wonk" i worked out the tempo by clicking my thumb and laying some hi hats down.
I made the track at 83 bpm but i just done a google search on it and it said 81 bpm not bad ey :D
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Postby pocket banger on Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:58 pm

one thought not so much about beat matching, but matching the keys between, say an acapella and a whatever your layering it onto.
Lets say you've got all the bits working together nicely in time, but your acapella is out of key... maybe heaps or just enough to be a little jarring. I'm finding that often when tranposing a sample (acapella) between keys the process tends to stuff up the the thing your transposing. Either the sound is altered, or the key isn't quite true or one part of the loop is kind of 'forced', trying to deal with the time stretching, etc.
Anyone got any hints?
Apart from hunting for different loops that 'work' without requiring stretching, or changing the tempo by using something like an external cd player which has an inbuilt pitch controller, for instance, then using that as your bpm for mixing, does anyone have any advice?

great site, by the way...
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Postby Dreamscape on Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:04 pm

Very useful guide

thanks :cheesy:
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Postby Luviuz on Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:55 am

thx! Is there any bpm utility for mac?
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Postby deserteagle232 on Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:28 pm

Nice tut, thanks!
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Postby Grim_MeNaCe on Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:05 pm

nice tutorial I tend to use bpm analyzer alot!
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Postby champ85 on Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:05 pm

thank you very much for this!
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Postby diizy on Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:54 pm

beautiful guide! i like this!
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Postby BognorBootleggers on Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:23 am

I find the best way the find the tempo of any track is to take the song into an audio editor such as wave lab then find a loop wheather that be 4bar 2bar 8bar or what ever, then count the number of beats and divide by the running time of the loop. Times that answer by 60 and you should have your bpm. The advantage of using an audio editor is you can zoom in to get pin point accuracy in your loop.

So the formula is:

(number of beats/running time in seconds)*60

Example

(4 beats/2 seconds)*60 = 120bpm
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Postby DJ Silverline on Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:14 pm

Try sony acid, that works very fast!
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Postby desktop on Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:50 am

I have one question. Does anybody know like how someone can have a slow song match up to like a very fast beat like 130 or so. Like the we belong together remixes, they don't sound like there any faster. Btw thanks for all the great infomation
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Postby psquared86 on Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:15 pm

this is what i've been looking for
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Postby BognorBootleggers on Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:00 am

desktop wrote:I have one question. Does anybody know like how someone can have a slow song match up to like a very fast beat like 130 or so. Like the we belong together remixes, they don't sound like there any faster. Btw thanks for all the great infomation


Yeah work with half or double tempos (however you look at it) so for example at 130bpm you might match a track thats 65bpm.
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Postby dreier on Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:27 am

yeah
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Postby lancastermusic on Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:11 pm

tanks for this... I've already made a remix but I didn't know how to find the right bpm - so i had to trust on my feeling into rhythm. this "new" way is better.
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Postby pulsar6145 on Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:57 pm

Woauaouwww, relly a good job.

I read this tuto with a big interest .

Big thanx
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Postby vinnie_soprano on Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:04 am

hmm im still unsure whAT BPM means
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Postby lancastermusic on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:05 am

vinnie_soprano wrote:hmm im still unsure whAT BPM means
Beats per minute
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Postby desktop on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:14 pm

BognorBootleggers wrote:
desktop wrote:I have one question. Does anybody know like how someone can have a slow song match up to like a very fast beat like 130 or so. Like the we belong together remixes, they don't sound like there any faster. Btw thanks for all the great infomation


Yeah work with half or double tempos (however you look at it) so for example at 130bpm you might match a track thats 65bpm.


Thank you so much for letting me know. :D
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Re: Need quick and dirty advice on getting started with pell

Postby anisina on Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:01 pm

kukumon70 wrote:OK, so I made a wicked track around 85 bpm. I have about 10 different pella that are between 80 to 90 bpm. I've never remixed a pella over a track, so what's the easiest way to get started? I am using Reason 3.0 and Wavelab. Thanks,

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Your answer in within the Forums via the Search function.
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Postby dbsk on Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:52 pm

thanks for the great tutorial!
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