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| I was browsing through here and found mixed statements on the DIY 'pellas. Anyway, is there a cool DIY 'pella currently available from the list worth giving a try? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you. |
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^ That depends on what type of music you produce. But to answer your question about if they’re any good…I’ve heard some pretty sloppy ones. A lot of times, you take depth out of the vocals along with removing the background, has something to do with mixing the channels during studio production—probably more info then you wanted. Anyway, I’d recommend not even using them unless you plan on literally REMIXING the original track. You know, take out some snares, adding hihats and rearrange a few things—but mainly keeping the track and beat pattern the same. Otherwise, what you’ll find is the new production will normally drown out the diy vocals, and you’ll have a complete mess. Or, maybe you could use the vocals as a bridge or hook in the track, but definitely not to make up the entire song.
Actually, theres a guy in our community who specializes in DIY pella productions. There supposed to be really good, but can’t think of their name right now. |
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from what i know about it the quality mainly depends on how much high end noise there is around the vocal & if the vocal is all the way centered or not (in the original song). and of course, the skill of the person doing the DIY.
sometimes the filtered sounding DIY's can fit into your track if theres some extra frequencies that help it blend in to the beat. other times it can get annoying because of the snares & other high end like Mel said.
ways that i use them - just for one-liner's like for intros, choruses, or if i want to echo a word or two. they're good with FX if the quality isnt too sloppy - distortion or a vocoder gets me some good results occasionally. |
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It depends on how was the pella gotten. I've heard some really good DIY's, mainly of Pop and Hip-Hop.
Of course, there are some crappy ones. But it mainly depends on:
-the person's experience mixing.
-the quality of the original song and the instrumental of it (better quality, better results you'll get).
Anyway, it will never (or almost never) be close to the official studio acapella. Some noises, maybe minimal ones, would be heard in the background (from the instrumental track), or maybe some noise over some vocal parts. |
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| ..so it sounds like they are better to use for hype slogans for your tracks than actual full remixes. Makes sense. Good looks for all the replies I do appreciate you cats takin the time out to word me up. On an off note, even some studio acapellas are horrible because of headphone bleed or other related artifacts. Also, I never understood why engineers would blast out the control room while the vocalist does their thing. I hate when you can hear the control room low-end delay on a clean acapella. Good thing we can roll off some low-end and in most cases you're good. Thanks again people for the replies. |
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like other have said.. it varies
depends on the material you start with .. how it's panned and the general frequency content surrounding the vocal
have a go at extracting some vocals from the hives with knockout.. the vocals are dead centre, loud and nice and 'topendy' .. you should be able to get a good extraction |
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if you're wanting examples... here's a good DIY:
scarface_ft._too_short_tela_devin_-funk(acapella).mp3 (this is one of my DIY's, but it was misnamed by another person and uploaded here)
and for an example of one made using the MS-Stereo method (no instrumental), try any of these:
foo_fighters_-_everlong_(acoustic_version_diy_leeroyparnell_acapella).mp3
jimi_hendrix_-_the_wind_cries_mary_(diy_leeroyparnell_acapella).mp3
johnny_cash_-_ring_of_fire_(diy_parnellapella).mp3
and a few from The Doors that I made (just search)
these aren't as good as the ones made with cd-source instrumentals, but they're mixable (some more so than others) |
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| juno wrote: |
from what i know about it the quality mainly depends on how much high end noise there is around the vocal & if the vocal is all the way centered or not (in the original song). and of course, the skill of the person doing the DIY.
sometimes the filtered sounding DIY's can fit into your track if theres some extra frequencies that help it blend in to the beat. other times it can get annoying because of the snares & other high end like Mel said.
ways that i use them - just for one-liner's like for intros, choruses, or if i want to echo a word or two. they're good with FX if the quality isnt too sloppy - distortion or a vocoder gets me some good results occasionally. |
You're right,skills needed for makin diy.
i always done my acapella with 3 times invertion.thats lot of work to do but i bet that you will never listen the background music.
if you're creative,you can made it.Trust Me!!!
all peoples can make their own acapella but they give up,what can we do.
dont give up when we trying somethin news.
i just used adobe for makin that.its enough.
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3 times inversion doesn't make a lot of sense. if you invert something once, then twice, you got the same thing... so if you invert it one more time, it's the same thing as inverting it once.
sorry, it's just not making much sense (might be the language barrier) |
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thats what i say.skills needed.you still new in this.its hard to do.1st,you need to remove somethin using the filter.then,setting up the amplitude.3rd,use some vst plugin.4th,invert.
5th,mix paste.6th,noise.7th,filters out.8th,invert again.9th,mix past.10th,fft filter.11th,invert again.12th,mix past.
DONE!!!
you wont listen any background music.
no one will trust this & no one will trust that adobe can make instrument.this technique most used by Professional DJ.
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lol
you think you're something, don't ya?
I been doing this way longer than you... re-inverting and re-paste-mixing has nothing to do with my method (which is using knockout). First you accuse me of stealing other people's acapellas, then you say I have no idea what I'm doing... you're not an acapella god, get over yourself (sorry if that came across rude, it wasn't really supposed to be)... that's too many steps, too much processing. In my opinion, it's better to have background music in the acapella rather than over-processing and compromising the vocal quality to reduce a little bit of background noise that will be inaudible when you mix it anyway... |
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| Whatever, indeed, you pompous ass. |
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| leeroyparnell wrote: |
| Whatever, indeed, you pompous ass. |
dont get pissed.thanks for help.
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Don't accuse people of stealing acapellas, when, in fact, I'm the one who's had acapellas stolen. I have every right to be pissed if I so desire.
And I'm done.
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| DJ Mike wrote: |
thats what i say.skills needed.you still new in this.its hard to do.1st,you need to remove somethin using the filter.then,setting up the amplitude.3rd,use some vst plugin.4th,invert.
5th,mix paste.6th,noise.7th,filters out.8th,invert again.9th,mix past.10th,fft filter.11th,invert again.12th,mix past.
DONE!!!
you wont listen any background music.
no one will trust this & no one will trust that adobe can make instrument.this technique most used by Professional DJ.
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yo,yo,yo.what the hell?
cut it off!
i heard bout this tecniques before in my college but its difficult to do so.
would you teach me? |
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| leeroyparnell wrote: |
if you're wanting examples... here's a good DIY:
scarface_ft._too_short_tela_devin_-funk(acapella).mp3 (this is one of my DIY's, but it was misnamed by another person and uploaded here)
and for an example of one made using the MS-Stereo method (no instrumental), try any of these:
foo_fighters_-_everlong_(acoustic_version_diy_leeroyparnell_acapella).mp3
jimi_hendrix_-_the_wind_cries_mary_(diy_leeroyparnell_acapella).mp3
johnny_cash_-_ring_of_fire_(diy_parnellapella).mp3
and a few from The Doors that I made (just search)
these aren't as good as the ones made with cd-source instrumentals, but they're mixable (some more so than others) |
your diy was good.full phat 10/10.respect that bro |
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