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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:14 am Reply with quote
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Itīs B.B. Kingīs "the thrill is gone"

hereīs a link to the file (mp3@192kbs, 3.8 MB):

http://www.freewebs.com/magicweb/audionstuff.htm

I made an instrumental version with the traditional phase inversion method and EQ'ed the low and high ends a bit equally on bith files before running them thru the knockout thing. I bounced the resulting mono file to a new track and gave it a bit of aditional EQ and dynamic treatment before exporting. all in 15 mins or so in Sonar. Iīm gona give another go in my own computer and see if I can get better results with precisser EQ or whatever.
Itīs, naturally, quite metallic sounding, but I thing itīs usefull enough for some purposes. Soaking this pella in a warm verb with a high bass boost at around 180hz helps quite some. comments apreciated guys.

Im not sure if it's goodnuff for uploading onto our acapella list; maybe someone in the staff wishes to check it out and comment on that?

NOTE: this link has some bandwith problems, but itīs a small enough file to not give to much trouble, took me less than 15 mins to download myself on a dial-up conection at 56k.

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this is very simliar to a method I sometimes use... I use Knockout a lot, and if you'll search, you'll find a Doors - Light My Fire diy that I made with my method (see below for more)

I haven't gotten this one to play yet , since I'm currently getting 225 bytes/second :-o
but something else you might wanna try is doing the MS matrix trick on the original song first, and running it thru knockout with the Input volume @ no more than 0, mix that down and bring it back into your audio editor and use the inverse-phase-treated version of the song against this new version in knockout.. hope that made sense.. but i been getting some good results that way.

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this is tough id like to know more

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finally got this to play, and yeah, i think you'll get even better results using the method i was describing... and if you have the Waves bundle, the X-Noise plugin is the best for post-filtering.

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leeroyparnell wrote:
this is very simliar to a method I sometimes use... I use Knockout a lot, and if you'll search, you'll find a Doors - Light My Fire diy that I made with my method (see below for more)

I haven't gotten this one to play yet , since I'm currently getting 225 bytes/second :-o
but something else you might wanna try is doing the MS matrix trick on the original song first, and running it thru knockout with the Input volume @ no more than 0, mix that down and bring it back into your audio editor and use the inverse-phase-treated version of the song against this new version in knockout.. hope that made sense.. but i been getting some good results that way.


you mean encode the original file as MS to widen the stereo or so?
Sounds interesting, but...
I know how to record and decode MS with coincidental miking, but I wouldīnt have a clue how to do that with stereo file, since I would be misiing the midle singnal. could it maybe look something like this:

First chanel set to mono and centered, chanel 2 phaseinverted panned hard left and chanel 3 panned hard right; all three chanels routed to the same stereo bus? Iīve got some plugs that give stereo files an MS imaging treatment, do you thing that could do the trick aswell?

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