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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:02 pm Reply with quote
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I have been working with a lot of old blues and soul from the 50's/60's..recorded in wonderful, full sounding MONO. I am trying to extract the vocals..and most the ideas here seem to be pointed to the usual methods in stereo..so outside of filtering the b g sus out of the track in hopes to lift the vox..any ideas? I was thinking of some sort of gating..I am using Audition, ReCycle and SoundForge, so I have the tools.. Idea

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hmmm.its tricky.

i'd say try some noise reduction at different FTT sizes (between 3000 to 8000) and if theres an instrumental bit u might be able to get something out of kn0ck0ut

when doing the noise reduction (in cool edit or adobe audition) experiment with thte transition width .. try and very high value and then work down

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thanks..I haven't really worked the transistion width thang yet..My idea on the gate was that the vocals in these tracks are often really loud, compared to the rest of the track..almost seems like some sort of ducking was used. The ideal source for some are the "stereo" records where, like early beatles stuff, the vocal and something else, like a guitar..was on one side, and the "rest" on the other..only thing is that now finding any of these 50 years old records is hard enough..not to mention the weird "stereo'ized" ones.

I'd like to ad here too..thanks for opening up the registartion again, this is a wonderful resource. I will be posting some of my better DIY things soon.

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Any idea of the best way of doing it in Cubase, stereo is fairly easy to do but mono I have difficulty with, any suggestions?

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I've had some pretty interesting results with Adobe Audition's Center Channel Extractor when trying to manipulate stuff that's mostly mono. This works for electronic stuff with constant tempos best. When most everything in the mix seems to be panned dead center, I'll delay the right channel of audio exactly 16 beats, and then do a karaoke-type center channel effect, muting all identical frequencies in both channels. Then, listening to either the right channel or the left channel, I'll find the centered drums totally gone. The sound can be a bit messy, but when the vocals share the same pan as lots of other stuff, and there's no instrumental available, it's a pretty decent method

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thats an interesting idea.. delaying one channel by a quantized amount.. hmm

love your beatles/scissor sisters thing btw!

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That looks great, i'll try it, thtanks eworm

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