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| I know some people still using cd's, anybody here? Why? |
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Chunkycoldmedina
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Haha, I think you are a little early to bring this debate up!!
Theres still hardcore vinyl purists out there!
I still love vinyl but sadly it is on its last legs. More and more clubs have their 1210's
in a cupboard somewhere just collecting dust.
It is also very hard getting stuff on vinyl these days.
Yes you can be very creative with software mixing but to me it is soooo boring!
I tried using both Traktor and Ableton in a club and was back playing on the CDJs
within 15 minutes in both cases.
I also found (unless I was doing something wrong) software was completely useless at trying
to mix RnB, Hip Hop, Reggaeton if fact anything that wasnt house or similar!
I know software has come a long way but to me it is just not good enough or exciting
enough yet for me to leave my CDs at home. |
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bumpthechannel
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| Chunkycoldmedina wrote: |
Haha, I think you are a little early to bring this debate up!!
Theres still hardcore vinyl purists out there!
I still love vinyl but sadly it is on its last legs. More and more clubs have their 1210's
in a cupboard somewhere just collecting dust.
It is also very hard getting stuff on vinyl these days.
Yes you can be very creative with software mixing but to me it is soooo boring!
I tried using both Traktor and Ableton in a club and was back playing on the CDJs
within 15 minutes in both cases.
I also found (unless I was doing something wrong) software was completely useless at trying
to mix RnB, Hip Hop, Reggaeton if fact anything that wasnt house or similar!
I know software has come a long way but to me it is just not good enough or exciting
enough yet for me to leave my CDs at home. |
Im just agreed to sell my cdj1000s and am beginning to wonder if it's the right thing....
I am looking at Serato, Traktor and M-Audio Torq but am worried about the crashing factor plus the drunken punter "ooops i spilt a pint in your laptop" factor however I am excited about the prospect of controlling 4 plus decks with effects live..
iv already agreed to sell these cdjs so I guess im gonna have to try some of these out  |
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Chunkycoldmedina
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| bumpthechannel wrote: |
iv already agreed to sell these cdjs so I guess im gonna have to try some of these out |
Shame on you! 
Really, its completely down to the individual, if you feel you can put a better show on
using software, by all means take that option.
The crowd are not gonna care as long as they are dancing.
A suggestion to any new DJs tho, make sure you can use CD players.
If you take a gig and your laptop dies, its gonna be pretty embarrassing if every mix
sounds like a car crash! |
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DJ Alborz
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| bumpthechannel wrote: |
| Chunkycoldmedina wrote: |
Haha, I think you are a little early to bring this debate up!!
Theres still hardcore vinyl purists out there!
I still love vinyl but sadly it is on its last legs. More and more clubs have their 1210's
in a cupboard somewhere just collecting dust.
It is also very hard getting stuff on vinyl these days.
Yes you can be very creative with software mixing but to me it is soooo boring!
I tried using both Traktor and Ableton in a club and was back playing on the CDJs
within 15 minutes in both cases.
I also found (unless I was doing something wrong) software was completely useless at trying
to mix RnB, Hip Hop, Reggaeton if fact anything that wasnt house or similar!
I know software has come a long way but to me it is just not good enough or exciting
enough yet for me to leave my CDs at home. |
Im just agreed to sell my cdj1000s and am beginning to wonder if it's the right thing....
I am looking at Serato, Traktor and M-Audio Torq but am worried about the crashing factor plus the drunken punter "ooops i spilt a pint in your laptop" factor however I am excited about the prospect of controlling 4 plus decks with effects live..
iv already agreed to sell these cdjs so I guess im gonna have to try some of these out |
any decent club should have the decks placed on a level above the punters below you. so there shouldnt be a drunken "ooops i spilt a pint in your laptop" factor lol 
And if you stick with serato and windows xp you should be fine. I have herd alot of people complaining that vista crashes. but from my experience windows xp doesnt crash with trakor and serator
i would leave a positive comment about cdjs aswell but right now i dont have the that type of cash to buy a decent one haha |
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LUM
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| so what are the capabilities of using cdj's over straight up software? im curious, although spending like $1500 dollars is definately not an option to me right now haha |
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MattSimpson
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Yeah I still use CDs/CDJs.
So does John Digweed, Hernan Cattaneo, etc... |
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Submeg
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Using the Serato.....
I have always watched clips of people mixing and on vinyl it's exciting and crazy, the way you have to move and actually grab the vinyl...not like a cd, press a button, twiddle a knob.... |
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| I dont dj but felt i had to speak up, my pal has recently been doing a lot of dubstep sets and has stopped for the time being as he finds it a bit strange just standing there with a laptop inbetween mixes so he has decided to cancel any forthcoming gigs while he learns to mix properly on the technics, fairplay to him is what i say. |
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ong312
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I personally use CDs for 2 reasons:
1. The technology is still affordable and reliable.
2. I get a little more respect than when I try and just bust out a lap top and call myself a DJ...
Using a Hard Drive/hard disc is just not the same as actually using disc... Records, CDs, whatever you want to use still has an added skill that is lost (the ability to match beats). Once you remove that, you have a bunch of people who are just picking songs. That is very important and I will not discount that. However, when you remove that skill it is akin to saying a studio altered voice that comes from someone who can't hit 3 notes is the same as someone who has classically trained chops... It's not. DJing, like singing is a craft. It should be honed and humanized... not standardized and mechanized. When anyone can call themself something it's harder to respect the people who actually do it!
"Oh, I'm an actor... but I also bartend/serve here until I'm discovered".... How many people lose respect after hearing that come out of someone's mouth? |
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DJ Alborz
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| ong312 wrote: |
I personally use CDs for 2 reasons:
1. The technology is still affordable and reliable.
2. I get a little more respect than when I try and just bust out a lap top and call myself a DJ...
Using a Hard Drive/hard disc is just not the same as actually using disc... Records, CDs, whatever you want to use still has an added skill that is lost (the ability to match beats). Once you remove that, you have a bunch of people who are just picking songs. That is very important and I will not discount that. However, when you remove that skill it is akin to saying a studio altered voice that comes from someone who can't hit 3 notes is the same as someone who has classically trained chops... It's not. DJing, like singing is a craft. It should be honed and humanized... not standardized and mechanized. When anyone can call themself something it's harder to respect the people who actually do it!
"Oh, I'm an actor... but I also bartend/serve here until I'm discovered".... How many people lose respect after hearing that come out of someone's mouth? |
thats not neccasarily true. most "laptop djs" i know only use software because they cant actually afford cdjs. Lets be honest £1200 ($2400) isnt exactly cheap. and some of those "laptop djs" are actually amazing at mixing and i know if they could, they would've got some cdjs and perfect their art using them. |
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djfam
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| I love my vinyl, but if you love what you do, then do what you do! |
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djyoz
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| i was a hardcore vinyl user untill i bought me a pair of pioneer cdj 100's mk3! oh my what a buy!!!!! |
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tobacco_slammers
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I use mixmeister for doing private parties but it's absolutely boring!
Mainly use cds now, getting a set of cdj 1000's in the summer, use numark axis 9's at the moment which are ok.
I still have my 1210 M3 turntables in the house lying on my floor! I can't see me buying anymore vinyl to play on them but I have lots of vinyl already and i'm setting them back up for fun as soon as I paint the unit I made for them!
Cds still have a good few years left in the DJ world, in my opinion anyway, so I think it's a bit early to be throwing them out just yet.
I think that it's going to be mp3 for the future but i'm hoping that some decent hardware will be produced instead of software as it just feels like cheating and is so boring.
I don't like using a "mouse" to dj! then again, I said I would never turn away from vinyl... |
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DJ Alborz
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| tobacco_slammers wrote: |
I think that it's going to be mp3 for the future but i'm hoping that some decent hardware will be produced instead of software as it just feels like cheating and is so boring.
I don't like using a "mouse" to dj! then again, I said I would never turn away from vinyl... |
it seems thats exactly what the manufacturers think aswell...
like the new cdj 400 can play mp3s off a hardrive/memory stick.
same with the new numark h-cdx (hardrive) and i-cdx (connects to laptops and micro-pcs)....
thats a good step, because not only are mp3s cheaper, but in my opinion they also give better quality! |
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jezzika
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| im learning on my good ol SL1200MKII, i love vinyls but cds are easier and lighter to carry. |
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BentoSan
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I actually write on a digital dj blog and can say without a doubt pc djing is the future.
There is a hell of alot more that is possible with a pc over vinyl or cd units so do not go blowing off pc software just yet.
Which brings me to another thing, those of us who are using pc midi equipment properly and reaping the rewards of a computers potential are not just pressing sync and cross-fading in and out of mixes. We are totally restructuring songs on the fly, applying amazing effects, customising our midi interfaces and just generally doing what has never been possible with vinyl or cd decks.
I hate to sound like an ad (infact i make no money and nor does the site) but if you are interested in what i am talking about check out www.DjTechTools.com - no we are not just another music blog, we are all about pushing digital djing to another level all together and pushing the envelope.
Also there are plenty of midi controls out on the market and there really is no excuse for even having to touch a mouse while you mix.
So back to the original question, just why is everyone still using those Cd units? ;) |
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Last edited by BentoSan on Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:28 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Chunkycoldmedina
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