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DJSARGEX · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

phasing method works fine enough... great post TiMG. Plus just equalizing a vocal out works just as good for me. Some of you guys are missing the point, you only need just enough quality to be able to mix in with another instrumental. In essence your masking the faults with the new mix. If it doesnt sound right, then its because its not in the right key and you probably shouldnt have mixed them together in the first place.

Oh btw maths dude, thats subtraction not inverse. inverse of (x+1)

is 1/(x+1)^-1 Smilie_PDT

but u got the idea anyway.

Cheers!

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jackdiggums · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

This sound like an idea to try. Is there any software on the market thats affordable that will give me a better quality acappella? Id like to start a few mixes with the pella' so if the original mix is comin through strong it might not work.

geronimoe · ACAS4U - a full PHAT 11/10!

is it possible to invert the phase with abelton live

Fatlumpcdfan · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

cool, thanks

hana.k · No longer the Rookie

Yeah, I think you can do it with the Utility plug-in, but I can never get it method #1 to work with Ableton.

blockidd · ACAS4U Phreakazoid

i tried the methods that were posted and the one that worked best for me was inverting the sound...i use audacity but i was wondering which program would be best for making acapellas. i plan to buy ableton live but want to know if it is as good as it seems. Exclamation

Ty17 · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

thx

going 2 try now hope it work Smilie_PDT

Nfect · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

I dont know if someone pointed it, but it has a way to get your accapela even cleaner.
As we know the phase cancelation is the best way to get a pela out of it's bed.
But even if this solution is the best, it has still some flaws. (ie: those low level sounds)
They are mostly acceptable, but in certain case, we just want to get rid of them.

First we have to understand where are those sounds/noise/artifacts are comming from. While mastering both the song with the voices,
and the instrumental, the engineer used the same settings that he got on the version with the voice on the version without.
Which means at the verry final stage he used the same maximizer on both version.

Those small sounds comming back after phase cancelation are coming from the version without the voice.
Fortunately they are the result of the same type of maximisation/limitation,
which means if we know how to go back (reverse engineering), we can fix that thing.
the instrumental version has less "things" to maximize which leaves more room for the sounds (artifacts) normaly "under the voice" to shine after phase cancelation.

Now that we know the problem, what is the solution?

The solution, as easy as it sounds, can be tricky.

reduce of 3 to 4 db both version, and add to both a compressor with a reverse ratio, such as 0.5:1, or 0.7:1... (that will "uncompress" them).
Keep the thresholds high enough. If you listen to the "canceled" version, the small sounds are not sounding like snare or hats playing at a low level,
but more like "the peak levels" of those sounds choped of their lower level parts.(they're mostly sounding like 8bit sounds)
Play on the attack and release settings till you get rid of the small sounds comming back.
When done add a maximizer back to the track, and put it's level up to what level you substracted at the begining.

nfect

djbradsto · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

I just can't do it. Simply put, I've managed to acquire all the software everyone talks about (ACID, Soundforge, FL7, wavepad, Goldwave, and the plugin kn0ck0ut) and all of them seem to not be working with what I want it to do.

I don't know where to find any other software that actually works any better becuase these programs seem top-of-the-line.

What am I doing wrong?

slarkin · No longer the Rookie

atlantaboix · No longer the Rookie

I have downloaded the KnoCkOut plug-in, but how Do I use it in Fruityloops? Or how do I open it? can someone please help

edgarmeleh · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

Cubique · ACAS4U Referral Ambassador

How the HELL do you do the inversion method? I'm seriously not getting it...

BL5 · No longer the Rookie

used the phase method, and it works and gives quite a good effect if u got a good instrumental and a high qual song

grimes · No longer the Rookie

Wow, I didnt know you can extract acapellas your self, thats bad ass and I cant wait to try it out, but I started to think about the ingredients you need to create a DIY acalella. If you have to search for a good quality instrumental then most of the time you will find a good quality acapella with it (like a single 12"). So why go through the trouble of extracting the vocals. Im hoping someone to prove me wrong. Does any one know where to find good quality intrumentals and instrumentals only.

themetaphysic · ACAS4U - a full PHAT 11/10!

wow thank you
it sounds difficult

juggalo487 · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

couldent you use the instrumental of the same song and then wined them down? it would be as easyer then tryin to find the same beat but diffrent instruments

djfillerup · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

I'm using ableton live, and i can't seem to figure out the procedure for phase cancellation. You guys said it's done by flipping the left and right bits of audio right? is this on the instrumental or the main track?

djfillerup · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

Yup, i tried the invert on the utility plugins. It works really well. I just didn't see the post above this page.

grimeunearthed · ACAS4U Rookie now off the mark

Can anybody send me the invers vst for virtual dj, or uplod it?

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